Old 10-07-2021, 01:47 AM   #1
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Default Modulators Rack For Parameter Modulation!

Imo one of the places where Reaper lacks is the parameter modulation, which again imo is the alpha and omega for having movement with sounds in sound design.
It would be great if we had a modulators rack, where we could add modulators (clocks, lfo, envelopes, steps sequencers, turing machine, stochastic attractors etc...) and be able to modulate any fx parameter but also to modulate the parameters of the modulators too.
So for example the rate of an lfo, shape, phase or anything else.

Also very important is to have the possibility to modulate the reset of these modulators with other modulators so they could reset on given time by other sources. Same thing to trigger envelopes or anything else that has a gate/trigger with other modulators/sources.
Combining all the above would lead to extremely nice evolving modulations and opens up lots of possibilities.

The modulator's rack could be based per track, for making the connections there could be a matrix window just like pin connector, which could be opened from the top right corner.
With option to add the sources from the horizontal row and the destinations from the vertical row. Then clicking on the block just like pin connector, would make the connection between them.
Also each connection block could have a small knob (right click to display?) to attenuate or set the min/max range of the modulation depth.

EXAMPLE!
Source: Reapitch_shift/Destination:Lfo1 ,OR Source: Rate lfo1/Destination: Lfo2.

Alternatively, it would be nice to do this with modular cables too, or with drag n drop.

This could bring a huge amount of ideas and inspiration to work with sound and will give a better movement with modulations.

It would be great also if scripters could create they're own modulator modules to add to the rack.

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Old 10-10-2021, 07:58 PM   #2
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I vote for this. Would really help my sound design workflow.
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:10 PM   #3
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This and a Fx Container, man, sound design heaven. +1
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I use parameter modulation very frequently and this would be an awesome enhancement!
A big +1 from me.
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Old 10-14-2021, 01:33 AM   #5
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Glad to see more people are interested to this.

I really miss a good modulation system, also a rack, except it could give us more potential with modulations, it could help a lot to see them easier/faster and organize them.
Now it's not very practical to click a parameter each time and then param dropdown menu to see which parameter is modulated, in case we want to disable/change it.

I hope the devs will look into it for the future.

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Old 10-14-2021, 01:44 AM   #6
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This and a Fx Container, man, sound design heaven. +1
Yep this and a better sampler, RS5000 needs desperately a good update with more features so we could enjoy sampling in Reaper, then it would be really sound design heaven.
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Old 10-14-2021, 05:01 AM   #7
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Is a "Modulators Rack" not something like a Control surface device (see the appropriate forum) in Software ?

AFAIK there are several of those and thy could remote-control, Reaper Parameters by Midi or OSC.
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Old 10-14-2021, 06:15 AM   #8
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Hi Michael, it's not related with midi controller devices. Imagine a rack where you can add lets say from the existing modulators an lfo, but in this rack you can add as many you want side by side and see them visually as for example you can see a horizontal row of modules in vcv rack or blocks in reaktor.

So in this rack for example, we could have a horizontal row to the top with drop down menus, where we can choose the fx and parameter to modulate, and next to the bottom, a row where we can add the modulators to send the parameter.
Some ideas to send the parameters to modulators would be with drag n drop, wires or dropdown menus. Same thing in case we want to send a modulator's parameters to other modulators.

Something like this would help modulating different parameters mush easier and faster, because we won't need to choose separately each parameter to modulate it, like it is now, we could change them or choose any parameter we want from the rack , because it's going to be based per track.
And we will have a visual reference of our modulations for any changes or in case we want to organize better.
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Old 10-14-2021, 06:31 AM   #9
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Some additional options from rack window could be save/load presets for use in other projects.(saving a nice combination of modulators would be nice)

A dropdown menu to choose different track. (in order to see the modulators of another track)

Randomize modulator parameters :P
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Old 10-14-2021, 07:00 AM   #10
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Just had another idea for sends with another view, the matrix view.
Similar to a modulation matrix in a synth, or reaper's pin connector window.

With option to add the source from the horizontal row and the destinations from the vertical row. Then clicking on the block just like pin connector, would make the connection between them.
Also each connection block could have a small knob (right click to display?) to attenuate or set the min/max range of the modulation depth.

-Clicking on the fx or modulators, will open/show each of them in the rack when we want to change their parameters.

I think i like this idea for sends and it's very close to reaper way.

(updated το the main post)

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