Old 02-24-2020, 12:14 PM   #6961
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I would very much appreciate that. The meters on my QConProG2 are showing values 4 dB too low.

BTW they are correct in Nuendo with the controller running as a MCU.
Is your Reaper Fader range set the same as your QConProG2 range ?
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Old 02-24-2020, 12:16 PM   #6962
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Awesome thanks Geoff i've got it working!
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Not sure if this has been mentioned but saw the stuff about the Midi Fighter RGB, but is there a way to tell CSI to turn on LED's? Say if i press button 1, turn on LED then if you press button 2 Turn button 1's LED off and turn Button 2's LED on?

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Not a way to do that exactly, what are you trying to accomplish ?

What is the use case ?
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Old 02-24-2020, 12:21 PM   #6963
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Not a way to do that exactly, what are you trying to accomplish ?

What is the use case ?
So on Faderport V2 Ive got 4 buttons: Link, Pan, Channel and Scroll. Each one is going to be assigned to a different Zone to change a few different functions on other buttons etc. So you can only have one selected at a time and whatever one your in I want to be lit up, so if you press Link it lights up and when you press Pan then Pan will light up and turn Link off. Because Im just using the buttons to GoZone they dont really respond to feedback from Reaper.
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Old 02-24-2020, 12:24 PM   #6964
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New build is up.

Simplified FocusedFXParam -- it now ignores Navigators.

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Use it anywhere
This is a really good idea and a very useful feature!
Thanks for it!

I had to test it immediately, of course.

So I put Fader| FocusedFXParam into the Channel| zone.

It works as it should with all parameters which are assigned to the Fader in the FX.zon.

If the last touched parameter is not assigned to a fader in the FX.zon, using the assigned button/rotary opens the appropriate envelope.

When I start to write automation using the fader, a volume envelope opens and volume automation is written.

I guess this has something to do with volume being assigned to the single fader in the channel|.zon, so being universal if not assigned otherwise in the FX or template zones?

how can I avoid this on the single fader controller (IconNano)?

I put Fader| FocusedFxParam into the FXMenu zone and into the FX.zon alternatively, same result.
Fader writes volume automation.

Using rotaries for writing automation is not even half fun

Edit: is this like with the Master Rotary? I had to assign one which is different from
the universally assigned rotary one for MasterPan.
However, this will not work in this situation since I only got one fader.

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Zone "Channel|"
	TrackNavigator
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Old 02-24-2020, 12:34 PM   #6965
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New build is up.

Simplified FocusedFXParam -- it now ignores Navigators.

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Use it anywhere
Works now!!! Super cool!

You've been epic lately. I count at least 5 builds in the last two days and today ain't over yet.

Repost from earlier, but here's how I'm using it...Shift+Write enters this mode, Shift+Read goes back to the fader controlling track volume. It adds a nice layer of control.

Writing FX automation via the fader works as expected too.
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Zone Home
	OnFXFocus MapFocusedFXToWidgets
	IncludedZones
		"GlobalButtons|"
		"Channel|1-1"
	IncludedZonesEnd
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Zone "GlobalButtons|"
	Shift+F1			GoZone Home
	Shift+F2			GoZone LastTouchedParam
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Zone "Channel|"
	TrackNavigator
	Fader|  			TrackVolume
	FaderTouch|  			TrackTouch

ZoneEnd

Zone "LastTouchedParam"
         FocusedFXNavigtor
         Fader1 FocusedFXParam
         FaderTouch1 TrackTouch
ZoneEnd

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Old 02-24-2020, 12:57 PM   #6966
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Default Encoder, different actions for positive and negative values.

Little bit random but has anyone attempted to do different actions depending on whether an encoder is outputting positive or negative values?

For example what I would like to do is use the encoder to control selecting tracks, so if you scroll left (The encoder outputs -0.0159 with every click) for each click I want to scroll one track previous and vice versa for scrolling right (when the encoder outputs 0.0159 with each click).
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So on Faderport V2 Ive got 4 buttons: Link, Pan, Channel and Scroll. Each one is going to be assigned to a different Zone to change a few different functions on other buttons etc. So you can only have one selected at a time and whatever one your in I want to be lit up, so if you press Link it lights up and when you press Pan then Pan will light up and turn Link off. Because Im just using the buttons to GoZone they dont really respond to feedback from Reaper.
Ah yes, Radio buttons -- we had talked about adding them, but then concentrated on Zones, which produce more bang for the buck - still for things external to Reaper they do come in handy -- like this use case.

OK everyone, let's discuss the best way to make radio buttons work from a Zone definition perspective...
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:19 PM   #6968
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Little bit random but has anyone attempted to do different actions depending on whether an encoder is outputting positive or negative values?

For example what I would like to do is use the encoder to control selecting tracks, so if you scroll left (The encoder outputs -0.0159 with every click) for each click I want to scroll one track previous and vice versa for scrolling right (when the encoder outputs 0.0159 with each click).
Usually it's best to leave the .mst files alone and modify the .zon files, but this is a case, where, if you are willing to change the .mst file -- and that means you can't use the normal rotary behaviour on this Page (other Pages can use a different .mst so you are fine there ) -- you can get what you want.

Here is an easy way to do it, just define the Rotary as 2 Buttons -- say your Rotary puts out 3f and 41:

Code:
Widget RotaryInc1
    Press 90 03 3f
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryDec1
    Press 90 03 41
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:28 PM   #6969
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Ah yes, Radio buttons -- we had talked about adding them, but then concentrated on Zones, which produce more bang for the buck - still for things external to Reaper they do come in handy -- like this use case.

OK everyone, let's discuss the best way to make radio buttons work from a Zone definition perspective...
I think for me personally, I would want something really simple like an instruction that you can add on to the end of an action like "LEDOn" and "LEDOff" and maybe the widget name in quotes? I would then assign these when defining my actions in the zones. So really quickly something like this:

Zone Home
OnTrackSelection MapSelectedTrackSendsToWidgets
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"Fader|"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd

Zone "Buttons|"
Link GoZone "FaderFXParam" LEDOn "Link"
Pan GoZone "RotaryPan" LEDOn "Pan" "Channel" "Scroll"
Channel GoZone "RotaryChannel" LEDOn "Channel" LEDOff "Pan" "Scroll"
Scroll GoZone "RotaryScrub" LEDOn "Scroll" LEDOff "Pan" "Channel"
ZoneEnd


Zone "Fader|"
SelectedTrackNavigator
Fader TrackVolume
FaderTouch TrackTouch
ZoneEnd


Zone "RotaryChannel|"
Rotary
ZoneEnd

Zone "RotaryPan"
SelectedTrackNavigator
Rotary TrackPan "1"
Channel GoZone "RotaryChannel" LEDOn "Channel" LEDOff "Pan" "Scroll"
Scroll GoZone "RotaryScrub" LEDOn "Scroll" LEDOff "Pan" "Channel"
ZoneEnd

Zone "RotaryScrub"
Rotary Reaper "992"
Channel GoZone "RotaryChannel" LEDOn "Channel" LEDOff "Pan" "Scroll"
Pan GoZone "RotaryPan" LEDOn "Pan" LEDOff "Channel" "Scroll"
ZoneEnd

Zone "FaderFXParam"
FocusedFXNavigator
Fader FocusedFXParam
FaderTouch TrackTouch
Link GoZone "Home" LEDOff "Link"
ZoneEnd



Sorry if that makes no sense, just jotting down my thoughts

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Old 02-24-2020, 01:44 PM   #6970
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Usually it's best to leave the .mst files alone and modify the .zon files, but this is a case, where, if you are willing to change the .mst file -- and that means you can't use the normal rotary behaviour on this Page (other Pages can use a different .mst so you are fine there ) -- you can get what you want.

Here is an easy way to do it, just define the Rotary as 2 Buttons -- say your Rotary puts out 3f and 41:

Code:
Widget RotaryInc1
    Press 90 03 3f
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryDec1
    Press 90 03 41
WidgetEnd
Awesome thanks Geoff, have set that up for the different 'velocity' values that it outputs as well so if you were skipping channels and you do it really fast it skips a couple.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:55 PM   #6971
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Thanks for posting your files, Funkybot.

The fader is now reliably assigned to the last touched parameter, regardless of the basic configuration.

But how to get out of FocusedFXParam again?

If I simply stop automation, the parameter remains attached to the fader.

A button GoZone Home jumps back to Home but does not seem to switch out of FocusedFXParam, having strange effects on the Reaper-controller interaction and entry to FXFocus.

is there a way to step from the FocusedFXParam back to the FXZone?

I tried a button GoZone "FXMenu|1-4" and put it into Button| zone and FocusedFXParam zone but that had worse effects.

I also observed that writing automation erases the previously written envelops points of completely differen parameters of the same effect plugin since all envelopes remain armed.

So there should be a disarming function somewhere (but that´s for later).



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Works now!!! Super cool!

You've been epic lately. I count at least 5 builds in the last two days and today ain't over yet.

Repost from earlier, but here's how I'm using it...Shift+Write enters this mode, Shift+Read goes back to the fader controlling track volume. It adds a nice layer of control.

Writing FX automation via the fader works as expected too.
Code:
Zone Home
	OnFXFocus MapFocusedFXToWidgets
	IncludedZones
		"GlobalButtons|"
		"Channel|1-1"
	IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd

Zone "GlobalButtons|"
	Shift+F1			GoZone Home
	Shift+F2			GoZone LastTouchedParam
ZoneEnd

Zone "Channel|"
	TrackNavigator
	Fader|  			TrackVolume
	FaderTouch|  			TrackTouch

ZoneEnd

Zone "LastTouchedParam"
         FocusedFXNavigtor
         Fader1 FocusedFXParam
         FaderTouch1 TrackTouch
ZoneEnd
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New build is up.

Simplified FocusedFXParam -- it now ignores Navigators.

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Use it anywhere

This should be really useful for VSTs like Reaktor, where the actual controls can change dramatically and you have no hope of having much of a static mapping.

Update: Works great with Blocks, and any ensemble where the author has setup Automation for the controls (which is hit and miss in the User Library. Still that's not CSI's fault).
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This should be really useful for VSTs like Reaktor, where the actual controls can change dramatically and you have no hope of having much of a static mapping.
Yes, thanks to LDEVO for suggesting it !
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Thanks for posting your files, Funkybot.

The fader is now reliably assigned to the last touched parameter, regardless of the basic configuration.

But how to get out of FocusedFXParam again?

If I simply stop automation, the parameter remains attached to the fader.

A button GoZone Home jumps back to Home but does not seem to switch out of FocusedFXParam, having strange effects on the Reaper-controller interaction and entry to FXFocus.
Try getting rid of FocusedFXNavigator in the LastParam zone. Sounds like it's no longer needed.

Sorry, I only had a few minutes to check this out and still haven't thoroughly sat down to make sure there are no kinks.
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Geoff, as an enhancement to this, would love to eventually be able to do this:

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Zone "FocusedFXParam"
	DisplayUpper1 FocusedFXParamNameDisplay
	DisplayLower1 FocusedFXParamValueDisplay
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So on Faderport V2 Ive got 4 buttons: Link, Pan, Channel and Scroll. Each one is going to be assigned to a different Zone to change a few different functions on other buttons etc. So you can only have one selected at a time and whatever one your in I want to be lit up, so if you press Link it lights up and when you press Pan then Pan will light up and turn Link off. Because Im just using the buttons to GoZone they dont really respond to feedback from Reaper.
Ive been kinda talking about something like this for the last few days here with the modifier buttons (sh,op,con,alt) on my surface. Having them lit when im in that mode. Even though i rigged a solution it would definitely be great to have this
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Is your Reaper Fader range set the same as your QConProG2 range ?
Thank you for the tip. I lowered the volume fader range to +8 dB, now the meters match. What's still odd is that in Nuendo the range is +12 dB.
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Focused FX Param page is up (MalcomG and Geoff - feel free to edit as needed):

https://github.com/malcolmgroves/rea...FocusedFXParam
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Ah yes, Radio buttons -- we had talked about adding them, but then concentrated on Zones, which produce more bang for the buck - still for things external to Reaper they do come in handy -- like this use case.

OK everyone, let's discuss the best way to make radio buttons work from a Zone definition perspective...
Are we assuming that the Zones that are GoZoned by the buttons are already mutually exclusive and that it's only the lights we're talking about?

Radio Buttons: The Banquo's ghost of CSI
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Focused FX Param page is up (MalcomG and Geoff - feel free to edit as needed):

https://github.com/malcolmgroves/rea...FocusedFXParam
Could this be made to work with the MasterFader?
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Geoff, as an enhancement to this, would love to eventually be able to do this:

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	DisplayUpper1 FocusedFXParamNameDisplay
	DisplayLower1 FocusedFXParamValueDisplay
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New build is up.

Added FocusedFXParamNameDisplay and FocusedFXParamValueDisplay.
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Are we assuming that the Zones that are GoZoned by the buttons are already mutually exclusive and that it's only the lights we're talking about?

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Yup, just the lights -- but also feedback in general that is outside Reaper's ability to maintain state.
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Yup, just the lights -- but also feedback in general that is outside Reaper's ability to maintain state.
So all those Reaper Actions that should generate on/off feedback, but don't?
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Focused FX Param page is up (MalcomG and Geoff - feel free to edit as needed):

https://github.com/malcolmgroves/rea...FocusedFXParam
Nicely done, as usual.

Of course you do realize, since you requested FocusedFXParamNameDisplay and FocusedFXParamValueDisplay, and they've been delivered, you've just created more work for yourself in this area
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So all those Reaper Actions that should generate on/off feedback, but don't?
It's a bit more than that, because the feedback has to go to many sources.

Think of the Transport -- if you press Play whilst Playing BOTH Play and Stop light up.

Similarly we need a way to store state to tell us which Radio buttons to turn on and which to turn off in the Radio button set, and then deliver to each one its proper state.
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Added FocusedFXParamNameDisplay and FocusedFXParamValueDisplay.
Do my plugins have to mapped to focused fx to use this new feature? Or can i still use it with the plugins mapped to selected fx (as mine are ) . Thanks
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It's a bit more than that, because the feedback has to go to many sources.

Think of the Transport -- if you press Play whilst Playing BOTH Play and Stop light up.

Similarly we need a way to store state to tell us which Radio buttons to turn on and which to turn off in the Radio button set, and then deliver to each one its proper state.
This sounds like it's building up to some sort of AND/OR/NOT Boolean thing.
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Do my plugins have to mapped to focused fx to use this new feature? Or can i still use it with the plugins mapped to selected fx (as mine are ) . Thanks
Nope, this one is completely standalone, no Navigator needed, and you can leave all other mappings alone, they'll work just fine alongside.
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Nope, this one is completely standalone, no Navigator needed, and you can leave all other mappings alone, they'll work just fine alongside.
NICE !!!! Thanks Geoff
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This sounds like it's building up to some sort of AND/OR/NOT Boolean thing.
Well, yeah, and we're also back into keeping state, so we have to make sure that when we deactivate the Radio buttons Zone, everything works out...

The more I think about this the less attractive it gets
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Nope, this one is completely standalone, no Navigator needed, and you can leave all other mappings alone, they'll work just fine alongside.
I was thinking about tieing the Master Fader to FocusedFXParameter permanently (instead of using it as a Master Fader- I never use it anyway)

When we say 'focused' in this context we mean 'last touched' right? Does that mean 'touched' as in adjusted by any means- I was thinking the Master Fader could act as a sort of super fine control adjunct to the C4 Rotaries.
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Well, yeah, and we're also back into keeping state, so we have to make sure that when we deactivate the Radio buttons Zone, everything works out...

The more I think about this the less attractive it gets
It was that word STORE that scared me
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:29 PM   #6994
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I was thinking about tieing the Master Fader to FocusedFXParameter permanently (instead of using it as a Master Fader- I never use it anyway)

When we say 'focused' in this context we mean 'last touched' right? Does that mean 'touched' as in adjusted by any means- I was thinking the Master Fader could act as a sort of super fine control adjunct to the C4 Rotaries.
That sounds like a great idea, try it
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That sounds like a great idea, try it
Will try it out in the morning 'night all.
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:33 PM   #6997
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Nicely done, as usual.

Of course you do realize, since you requested FocusedFXParamNameDisplay and FocusedFXParamValueDisplay, and they've been delivered, you've just created more work for yourself in this area
The new Display options work great.

I'm happy to add documentation for things I request. Let's be honest: I'm the one coming out ahead in this situation!

EDIT: added the parameter name documentation to the bottom of the same page as well as to the action list.

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Old 02-25-2020, 12:25 AM   #6998
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i was reading new updates on the wiki CSI instruction pages and noticed the added Qcon ProX Master Meter section. Just wanted to let you know that that didnt work. I think the master meter on this prox is ungettable lol. It doesnt work with anything i tried . Even Geoffs suggestion (which is what is on the wiki page) didn't work. Ive been trying to get that meter work since i started with CSI. It didnt work with klinke or mcu either. But anyway just wanted to give you heads up since it was added to the wiki page. Thanks
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Defective device ??
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Bit of a weird one but Ive just noticed that after setting a track to write using trackautomode after around 55 seconds of writing volume automation the track resets itself to Trim/Read, seems to be happening pretty consistently as well. Anyone else experienced this?
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