10-31-2019, 05:19 AM | #1 |
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Undo bug
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When i use undo - recorded clips get shorten in length and shifted back on a grid, content inside clip also shifted (probably on a value of record delay). UPD: I reinstalled everything. The bug undo moving clips and regions back one quarter still exist, not only on undo but on duplicate track operation also. Also when i load a project, master channel, and sends levels on almost every channel goes zero... PS: SOLVED BU CHANGIN LC_NUMERIC to en_US.UTF-8 Last edited by RO-mix; 11-01-2019 at 05:38 AM. |
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What is in your undo history when that happens? Also try right clicking on undo history states to open the "Undo state information" submenu which shows the state's contents.
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Tryed with fresh beta build. Same with fresh install without scripts. |
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Hi RO-mix,
I think I had similar issues that turned out to be caused by a locale bug. Is your system locale not set to "en_US.UTF-8"? I think LC_NUMERIC is the important one. Check by typing "locale" into a console. Set it to "en_US.UTF-8" and see if the problem persists I had this issue when loading certain u-he plugins. Last edited by FeedTheCat; 11-01-2019 at 02:39 AM. |
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Nice! It is quite the weird bug, since it makes reaper malfunction on many levels. It would probably be a good idea to briefly mention this in the awesome "REAPER for Linux Documentation" thread.
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I could add that. Since I've been very absent lately I've seen discussions about this, but am not sure what the problem actually is. Mind giving me a short description of the issue?
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When LC_NUMERIC is set to womething other than us_UTF8 - many calculations are done wrong. Probably because floating point..
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11-04-2019, 02:53 AM | #9 |
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Yeah, it is floating point. Apparently certain actions (loading u-he plugins?),
make Reaper use your system locale. If the locale specified in LC_NUMERIC does not use the dot as a decimal separator, you will experience all sort of bugs. Most noticeably faders just going to zero: e.g reaper will interpret the volume 0,782 as 0 Basically you are on the safe side if your LC_LOCALE is set to "en_US.UTF-8". An easy way to check is the "locale" command in a terminal. |
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OK, done.
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Thank you!
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I have the same issue again in Reaper 6 with linux. Thought there was something implemented to prevent this. Now I have to figure out again how to solve it.
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Hmm REAPER should warn on startup if the locale is set incorrectly? Does yours not? Can you tell me what locale settings are set (specifically the LC_NUMERIC environment variable?)
Edit: it's also possible that a plug-in is changing the locale later on.. If there is no startup warning, can you see if it's caused by a particular plug-in? |
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LC_NUMERIC = "en_US.UTF-8" should be correct, right? In case it is a plugin how can I find this out? I'll do some more tests next week. edit: On a second PC I set the local to de_DE Code:
locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL=
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Ok thanks!
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It is still happening :
I opened the corresponding RPP and RPP-bak file, but there is no comma inside. There's also no warning. Will plugins change the RPP files also? Sometimes it´s opening fine, sometimes with all faders down.
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A good way to check is in Preferences>Audio>Mute/Solo. There are some points there that turn into commas when the bug occurs. Start Reaper and open an empty project and add some plugins until it you find the culprit U-he Repro 5 always did the job for me, but I can't replicate it right now. It might also be distribution specific. I read somewhere that certain distros do not use the locale.conf settings
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Because the strange thing is: When I set LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 I get a comma with the num block comma, but also when I set it to LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8 I still get the comma. I´m on Debian 10. If I understand correctly with the latter setting pressing the num block comma I should get a point.
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To my understanding the comma in german and english layouts are the same. It's not swapped somehow like Z and Y if that is what you mean. You should always be get getting commas (num block or not).
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numeri...ile:Numpad.svg Instead of a comma on a qwertz keyboard.
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Oh ok, I get what you mean now. That is strange. I also always get a comma, regardless of what layout I choose. But don't worry about it, I don't think that is related to reaper LC_NUMERIC issue
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I put export LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" into my ~/.bashrc file, but that seems to change the locale in my terminals. When I start Reaper from the terminal it's working fine. Does anyone know how to change the locale system wide (Debian)?
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There's already a similar thread: https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewt...16349&start=30 I'll open a new one.
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I opened a thread a while back and added another post:
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewt...06315#p7606315
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I could replicate the behaviour on a second PC. Obviously the command
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echo 'export LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"' >>~/.bashrc Code:
source ~/.bashrc What works is: Code:
update-locale LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8 After reboot the change will work. If I can reproduce it on my music PC the issue is solved.
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