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04-15-2021, 09:37 AM
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Fast seek to loudest peak for audio book narration
Summary:
Is there a way to jump the edit cursor to the loudest peak in the editor?
Detail:
I am editing my wife's audio book narrations. A large part of the process is as follows.
1) Shift+UpArrow until the loudest peak touches the max size
2) Locate the edit cursor on this point
3) Zoom way in
4) ALT+z to split before and after peak
5) Adjust volume db accordingly
6) Repeat for every peak
7) Adjust track volume
8) Repeat
There is a fair bit of manual searching to find the max peak(s). I looked for a keystroke but didn't find it. If there were only a couple peaks per file it wouldn't matter, but sometimes there are a lot and it gets tedious.
I am far from a Reaper pro (read novice), but I do have a process that works pretty well for me at this time.
Thank you
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04-15-2021, 09:49 AM
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Sounds labour-intensive. Is there a compelling reason you don't use a compressor/limiter, or the pre-FX envelope?
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04-15-2021, 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevej1
Summary:
Is there a way to jump the edit cursor to the loudest peak in the editor?
Detail:
I am editing my wife's audio book narrations. A large part of the process is as follows.
1) Shift+UpArrow until the loudest peak touches the max size
2) Locate the edit cursor on this point
3) Zoom way in
4) ALT+z to split before and after peak
5) Adjust volume db accordingly
6) Repeat for every peak
7) Adjust track volume
8) Repeat
There is a fair bit of manual searching to find the max peak(s). I looked for a keystroke but didn't find it. If there were only a couple peaks per file it wouldn't matter, but sometimes there are a lot and it gets tedious.
I am far from a Reaper pro (read novice), but I do have a process that works pretty well for me at this time.
Thank you
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There is an SWS action:
SWS: Move cursor to item peak sample
I do agree, however. What you're doing sounds like manual compression. Inlining a compressor set to the parameters you use should help you save a buuuuunch of time.
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04-15-2021, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2021
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Thanks for checking this out guys. Much appreciated.
bolgwrad:
Yes to labour-intensive. But strangely, not always.
Compelling reason compressor/limiter, or the pre-FX envelope?
To be honest, mostly out of ignorance. However, in the beginning I did try out track-wide compression. It doesn't work as well as expected.
The parameters required for audible put you in a narrow window of success. One chapter to the next can be quite different. As a voice actor she is all over the map in db. Both in max volume and min RMS. Using a surgical strike like I am doing preserves the intent of her voice and makes it easier to guarantee a successful render.
stevengonzalesvo:
Thankyou. I will see if I can find out how to do the SWS action and let you know.
If people are interested, I can go in to more detail about my process. Then we can take it apart and fix it, or maybe figure out how to write a script to iterate through with a loop for success.
The ultimate goal I have is for me to alter as little of her voice as possible and still meet the requirements of audible.
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04-15-2021, 11:06 AM
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stevengonzalesvo
Is this (see attached jpg) where I should see the SWS action - Move cursor to item peak sample?
If so I don't see it.
I am running v6.27 for Linux
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04-15-2021, 11:51 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevej1
Thanks for checking this out guys. Much appreciated.
bolgwrad:
Yes to labour-intensive. But strangely, not always.
Compelling reason compressor/limiter, or the pre-FX envelope?
To be honest, mostly out of ignorance. However, in the beginning I did try out track-wide compression. It doesn't work as well as expected.
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You should be able to have a chain of first a compressor with a low ratio set to barely be kicking in followed by a limiter set to just knock off the top two or three dbs during the loudest exclamations and have it transparent enough to be effective and not an issue. But it does take fiddling with the thresholds to achieve it. I've cut way down the manual volume adjustments when I run off audiobooks because the money has come down so much (maybe not recently but I mean over the past decade) that it doesn't equate for the billing of the project, which is by finished audio hour and not hourly time spent. Although each tweak doesn't take long, over the whole project it can add hours.
Two compressors and a limiter on the track and a brick wall limiter on the master (along with eq, including hard high and low passing) and the dynamics are consistent and it doesn't sound wrong. I would suggest to try working with the dynamics plugin settings to hone in on how to achieve a result that works for you.
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04-15-2021, 01:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevej1
stevengonzalesvo
Is this (see attached jpg) where I should see the SWS action - Move cursor to item peak sample?
If so I don't see it.
I am running v6.27 for Linux
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You do have SWS installed?
In case not install from here and it should appear after Reaper restart.
https://www.sws-extension.org/
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04-15-2021, 02:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2021
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nofish:
Hey Hey! I got it. Thanks for the nudge. I didn't have it installed.
I found "Move cursor to item peak sample" and have a hot key assigned.
I am also going to look into SWS/BR Analyze loudness
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04-15-2021, 02:25 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2021
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vdubreeze:
You are correct about making a living on audible. It's like working for nickles. She has completed about 25 books and the return as an hourly rate is shockingly low. The Per finished hour is ok if you can get the top tier rate, but the books are rare, and the number of narrators trying out for them is very high. Knowing what we know now, I can't suggest it as a viable income for anyone.
At this point in time we are still evaluating our options and it has become a quest.
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04-15-2021, 11:54 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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The sonic anomaly trileveler2 can work really well on this kind of material. You should be able to cut your post work right down.
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