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Old 11-08-2019, 08:32 AM   #14
n997
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If AI's produce better music than people, I'm happy to listen to it. We'll just net universal basic income to make up for the lost jobs.
Regarding UBI and robots taking jobs, I'll bet on there being a dystopic era first. Besides musicians, imagine how majority of people who define themselves through paid jobs will feel when AI and robots become better workers than them.

Even in Nordics they already struggle to adjust - as many industries increase automation, politicians attempt to increase employment rates through tax-supported wages and activity workshops for people unneeded by employers. Obviously, taxing wages paid from taxes in the first place gives less than it takes, so as real tax income diminishes and unemployment increases, they'll have to reinvent wealth distribution to maintain the welfare states.

Coming decades will bring big changes, one way or another. The Nordics with their socialist-leaning cultures might survive without much unrest, but in less fortunate environments things may go badly.

Last time when technology, automation and means of communication changed too quickly for the masses - about 100 years ago - came economic collapses, revolutions, wars, authoritarian dystopias, and more wars. Recent situations around the world seem to veer again into that direction.

Which brings right back to deepfakes. As technical media lose trustworthiness - no certainty of who really said what - only the message itself will remain. So essentially, deepfakes won't change much. Whether an orator at a public rally or an AI posting a fake message on social media, what matters is whether the recipients agree with it, and what actions they will take as a result.

Fakes aside, there will probably be cases of AIs - openly identifying as such - developing ideas, and people being happy to be led by them.

For a while, it'll be yet another new mirror for humanity to look into, and the picture won't be all pretty.

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Meanwhile in music, I think deepfake will indeed be just another tool. Probably very fun one too. And at some point, yeah, machines will probably make more interesting music than humans, with real-time biofeedback gathered from listener to guide personalized generation of sensory stimuli. Everyone will have their mood organ.

Eventually even the "listener" will be a "robot" of some kind, too... heck, it's foreseeable that AIs will become the next stage of evolution for humanity, so why worry about inevitable. Might as well just have fun within one's lifetime, and think about how children of humanity won't be bound by physical bodies and short lifespans. They'll survive anywhere energy is available and can remain in the solar system long into Sun's white dwarf stage. For interstellar travel, they won't need to break the speed of light, as their longevity and concept of time won't require it. There'll be Star Treks, but definitely not as we know them

Last edited by n997; 11-08-2019 at 10:51 AM. Reason: typo
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