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Old 12-16-2011, 12:46 PM   #1
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Default What do you hate about REAPER ?

All you Reaper users, what do you hate about reaper ? This isnt meant to trash Reaper, cause I love it. Just curious what you hate about it.

I hate it for its greatest strength, customization. I spend so much time looking into the best way to set it up, that I forget to make music with it. I wish it just came out of the box a little better setup with a more "complete" tool list... like maybe having the SWS functions automatically in there.

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Old 12-16-2011, 12:48 PM   #2
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I hate the fact when I fire it up it doesn't say "Good morning Dave"
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^^^

If you set REAPER to open project notes upon startup, it could indeed say "Good Morning Dave" everytime you open a song.

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Only one thing really... Lack of proper Mackie HUI protocol which means my CM Labs MotorMate and MotorMix consoles are gathering dust
I don't want to sell them because the guy who designed and built them (Carl Malone) custom built mine for me. They are really high quality units and I'd really love to use them with REAPER.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:59 PM   #5
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What do I hate about REAPER?

Massive installer
Ridiculous load times
Ultra-rigid work-flow
Viciously crippled demo
Unfair pricing structure

And my personal peeve: It just doesn't sound as good as other DAWs.
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:59 PM   #6
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I hate that I'm such a nub that I don't know what half of the features of Reaper
Even do. Like, what's sws? I'm clueless to a lot of it, but getting better!
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:02 PM   #7
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^^^

If you set REAPER to open project notes upon startup, it could indeed say "Good Morning Dave" everytime you open a song.

Actually my name isn't Dave but I thought it would be cool
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:05 PM   #8
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Actually my name isn't Dave but I thought it would be cool
Man, that is so old hat. So last decade. So, um.... 2001
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:13 PM   #9
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That it pretty much requires a paradigm shift to properly appreciate.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:17 PM   #10
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Not to sound like a broken record but lack of surface controller support is really frustrating. However, I understand that it takes two to tango in Paris and the hardware manufacturers are equally guilty as charged.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:27 PM   #11
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keyboard action passthrough issue. certain windows block keystrokes assigned to main screen actions. this is understandable, but there needs to be some sort of global passthrough options for those of us who know what we're doing.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:27 PM   #12
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+1 to Nym's post

ummm ... first part of my sig :-/

And some visual nitpicks on OSX that shouldn't bother me because they're superficial ... but they do.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:30 PM   #13
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I'll add another +1 to that.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:34 PM   #14
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This is mad.

I hate nothing. Great product. Sorry - I think I have become a Reaper fanboy.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:40 PM   #15
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Just dukati getting his/her/its post count up....

P.S. Only thing I hate about Reaper is it took me about 3 years to get fairly good at Sonar and now it looks like I have the same amount of time for learning Reaper's ins and outs...

But happily making noises in the meantime.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:45 PM   #16
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Haha... yeah, that post brought me up to a solid 31 posts.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:47 PM   #17
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Lack of surface control support. I am waiting on buying a big one until I see more movement on this.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:49 PM   #18
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I hate nothing. Great product. Sorry - I think I have become a Reaper fanboy.
this, plus:

the depth of the menus and the excellent results that other reaperites achieve using the software make it obvious that i still don't really know how to use it properly...
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:24 PM   #19
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The FX Windows, oh man, how I hate the FX Windows... I hide them like an ugly girlfriend when people walk in..... shamefully ugly.

Other than that, I love it, anything else is just an idea on how to make it better for me.
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:33 PM   #20
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The FX Windows, oh man, how I hate the FX Windows... I hide them like an ugly girlfriend when people walk in..... shamefully ugly.
Hey, at least they don't have to be bright white anymore. Kinda like your ugly girlfriend with make-up.

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Old 12-16-2011, 02:34 PM   #21
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Lousy icons for tracks. The Reaper team needs to use REAL pics of instruments/vocals. Even so, triple the choices: have images of background singers, male vs. female lead singers, a choir, an orchestra, more specific string and woodwind instruments, a better choice for FX images, amp images, steel guitars, banjos, mandolins, full 3-5 piece band images, etc.

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Old 12-16-2011, 03:18 PM   #22
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Hmmmm.... missing video-thumbnail track... maybe not that important ...but the "jumpy" cursor while RWD/ FFWD ... I really hate that one!
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Haha... yeah, that post brought me up to a solid 31 posts.
thought you'd like that one...and people say I am such a miserable old bastard....
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:20 PM   #24
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Hmmm. Let's see.


* I hate the menu editor layout. Seriously. It could be done much easier. It lacks fundamental functionality (copy-pasting multiple selected items, for example). Take a look at Photoshop's menu editor, for a good example of such editor. You can even color-code the menu entries there! Also, menu editor STILL doesn't support ALL menus in all contexts in Reaper. I would have expected that Cockos would add some more menus since the feature was introduced way back in v3, but nothing has improved regarding menu editor since then. Classic Cockos "we'll do a bit now, then forget about it for a few years and leave it to rot there".

* Navigator. Looks fucking gross. Doesn't correctly color tracks and items. Reversed look of selected and unselected items. No track dividers displayed.

* MIDI filter is not comprehensive enough. It also isn't dockable to the MIDI editor yet.

* Item-based MIDI editing. Really. It needs to be track based, where items would simply be clips. We should be able to edit all items on a track at the same time from the MIDI editor (see Sonar 4-7).

* In-line MIDI editing sucks. Why? It's not track based!

* Some windows still don't respect the new skinnable anti-white-background colors. Also, Reaper needs to let go of Windows-based theme elements and make them all skinnable. It is ridiculous that we can have skinnable horizontal and vertical scrollbars in the arrange and MIDI editor, and mixer, and FX window, but not in the FX browser and some other windows!!!

* ReaPlugs aren't skinnable.

* No real area selection yet.

* No absolutely customizable mouse modifiers yet (including middle (double)click/drag and right (double)click/drag in ALL contexts).

* Properties window isn't resizeable, and there are so many properties that it SHOULD be.

* Main default toolbar icons do not seem to comply to composite_toolbar_overlay.png + toolbar_blank.png combination. All other custom icons comply. WTF?! This was pointed out in R4 beta and WASN'T FIXED SINCE THEN!

* Parameter modulation could use a much wider parameter value range.

* No mouse sweep gestures in routing/group matrix or FX in/out matrix. This would speed up working with them tremendously.

* No automation clips. Yet. For how long more? :/


I'm sure I could think of something else, but until I bump into it again, this will do for now
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Man, you're on fire!


But yes - Inline-editor sucks!
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:32 PM   #26
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No Eucon.

Automation could be deeper.

Video playback is not as seemless as on our Pro Tools rig.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:38 PM   #27
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I hate that the forum is so engrossing that I don't use the actual software as much as I ought to.I'm always learning something here that I should be figuring out for myself after hours of misery and frustration.
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I hate that the forum is so engrossing that I don't use the actual software as much as I ought to.I'm always learning something here that I should be figuring out for myself after hours of misery and frustration.
this too
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Main default toolbar icons do not seem to comply to composite_toolbar_overlay.png + toolbar_blank.png combination. All other custom icons comply. WTF?! This was pointed out in R4 beta and WASN'T FIXED SINCE THEN!
The 'WTF' in question would be intentional backwards compatibility; existing toolbar elements remained unchanged.
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Old 12-16-2011, 04:59 PM   #30
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- Too many inconsistencies in the interface, like the fx windows, track manager, midi editor, Rea-plugs etc. Things that affect every theme regardless of how well designed it is and bring up the constant ugly interface threads on so many forums.

- Midi editor behaviour issues constantly overlooked. New features are added while the basic issues that are repeated time and time again (zoom, scroll on playback, space before bar 0 (seriously wtf) etc).

- Lack of proper area selection.


I am really just repeating what is said time and time again though. I have faith the devs will improve the interface, user interaction and midi editor eventually.....
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The 'WTF' in question would be intentional backwards compatibility; existing toolbar elements remained unchanged.
add a line in rtocfig which tells reaper to use blank+overlay or nothing for toolbar icons so authors of themes can just set it up how they see fit?

old_toolbar_icons=0 or 1 (if the line is missing treat it as if it`s set to 1)
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I hate the fact when I fire it up it doesn't say "Good morning Dave"
You'd never believe me....
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:02 PM   #33
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I hate having to have to consistently click on the arranger window to focus it so the spacebar will initiate play.
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:08 PM   #34
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i really hate the startup vst scan. super annoying. takes forever to complete. i realize that people who have only a few dozen plugins or even a hundred might not be bothered too much, but i have close to 1TB, literally thousands, and it takes close to 5 minutes (no exaggeration) to complete.
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:08 PM   #35
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It would be nice to click on something and have a color palette open and maybe some other tweakable visual options like font, size etc. Going back and forth to change colors and remember what you set and how it looks is annoying.

Just being picky though
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:11 PM   #36
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if it crashes it does so without saving or recovering your stuff.

also in FIPM you can't zoom into to an individual item vertically within a track. grr.


otherwise pretty awesome, mostly user laziness.
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The 'WTF' in question would be intentional backwards compatibility; existing toolbar elements remained unchanged.
Yeah. But...

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add a line in rtconfig which tells reaper to use blank+overlay or nothing for toolbar icons so authors of themes can just set it up how they see fit?

old_toolbar_icons=0 or 1 (if the line is missing treat it as if it`s set to 1)
This would have solved it in a better way!
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It would be nice to click on something and have a color palette open
you can already do something similar with custom toolbar and some actions (sws cycle editor is necessary)

all I`m doing in this licecap is pressing "c" whenever I click a track (toolbar button with word ONE is used to bring color selector for more choices):

https://stash.reaper.fm/11123/colors.gif
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Hmmm. Let's see.


* I hate the menu editor layout. Seriously. It could be done much easier. It lacks fundamental functionality (copy-pasting multiple selected items, for example). Take a look at Photoshop's menu editor, for a good example of such editor. You can even color-code the menu entries there! Also, menu editor STILL doesn't support ALL menus in all contexts in Reaper. I would have expected that Cockos would add some more menus since the feature was introduced way back in v3, but nothing has improved regarding menu editor since then. Classic Cockos "we'll do a bit now, then forget about it for a few years and leave it to rot there".

* Navigator. Looks fucking gross. Doesn't correctly color tracks and items. Reversed look of selected and unselected items. No track dividers displayed.

* MIDI filter is not comprehensive enough. It also isn't dockable to the MIDI editor yet.

* Item-based MIDI editing. Really. It needs to be track based, where items would simply be clips. We should be able to edit all items on a track at the same time from the MIDI editor (see Sonar 4-7).

* In-line MIDI editing sucks. Why? It's not track based!

* Some windows still don't respect the new skinnable anti-white-background colors. Also, Reaper needs to let go of Windows-based theme elements and make them all skinnable. It is ridiculous that we can have skinnable horizontal and vertical scrollbars in the arrange and MIDI editor, and mixer, and FX window, but not in the FX browser and some other windows!!!

* ReaPlugs aren't skinnable.

* No real area selection yet.

* No absolutely customizable mouse modifiers yet (including middle (double)click/drag and right (double)click/drag in ALL contexts).

* Properties window isn't resizeable, and there are so many properties that it SHOULD be.

* Main default toolbar icons do not seem to comply to composite_toolbar_overlay.png + toolbar_blank.png combination. All other custom icons comply. WTF?! This was pointed out in R4 beta and WASN'T FIXED SINCE THEN!

* Parameter modulation could use a much wider parameter value range.

* No mouse sweep gestures in routing/group matrix or FX in/out matrix. This would speed up working with them tremendously.

* No automation clips. Yet. For how long more? :/


I'm sure I could think of something else, but until I bump into it again, this will do for now
Lots and lots of things that I totally share with you here ED starting by:

- No automation clips. Indeed how long?
and mine as well is the big problem with THEMES. How they are Bundled that everytime you want to add a new Theme, everything you have done, you have to loose or re-adjust and make sure you got this or those icons here and there so you don't loose things etc.. very very very extremely +++ ANNOYING like hell! And this has been dragging for years!!!

Ohh and also, was forgetting, Dealing with VSTI Multis with any Vsti is still a freaking pain no matter how you get use to after you learn how to get around with. I'm positive there could be easier and more straight forward way. Proof, many new DAW including S1 succeed to do so.


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