Clean all projects ?

[Coachz]

Is there a utility or can anyone write one that will clean multiple projects at once? I'd like to take all projects in a subdirectory and clean them all. Any *.rpp file. Not baks. Thanks for any ideas.

[Breeder]

Current workaround is to open all the projects in REAPER and then clean one of those opened projects. That works if all projects share the same audio folder and I'm not sure if you need some kind of option turned on (for example, not to offline media in background projects or something like that) because that's the trick. When media is opened in REAPER, REAPER locks it from deleting so cleaning projects that share same audio folder like this prevents you from deleting stuff that are not used by .rpp you're cleaning but are by the other opened .rpp files.

Hope this helps, this is the only trick I'm currently aware of to accomplish something similar to your question.

[Coachz]

Well, all of my projects are independent and none of their audio is intermingled. Every one of my project is an island.

[Breeder]

Originally Posted by Coachz

Well, all of my projects are independent and none of their audio is intermingled. Every one of my project is an island.

Tough luck then, haha. Hope you nail it, it's a useful feature for sure

[Coachz]

Thanks. I currently have to go around manually and open each Project, Clean the project and you know waste a lot of time.

[Coachz]

Does the RPP list all of the paths to the audio files that are in used ? Could I write a script that parses through all the paths and delete every other file that's not and audio file in the path?

[mixer]

Originally Posted by Coachz

Every one of my project is an island.

I like that phrase. My projects are islands as well. No mingling. Anti-social little buggers.

But let me ask (perhaps a naïve question): What do you clean out of projects? I just leave them as they are. Everything seems to work fine, but maybe things could be better.

[RJHollins]

Can't a Project be saved to a new Folder as a SAVE-AS ?

Only the essential files should be in the new Folder. [?]

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by mixer

I like that phrase. My projects are islands as well. No mingling. Anti-social little buggers.

But let me ask (perhaps a naïve question): What do you clean out of projects? I just leave them as they are. Everything seems to work fine, but maybe things could be better.

When you do edits, glue, freezes and renders, Reaper creates new files and leaves behind dozens and dozens of files that are not longer needed. Cleanup throws those files out leaving a directory of audio files of only items in the current project.

If you were to go to an old backup, you might be missing files if you did a clean up but when I get to a good place in a project, I'm happy to clean up and leave the old behind. With backups ever 15 mins here, my last few backups are very close to my current project.

It looks like the .rpp project file has the listings of audio files being used under areas like
<SOURCE WAVE
FILE "AudioFiles\instruments2-004.wav"
>

so I could probably write a cleanup script that gets a list of them all and then removes all files not in the list. Then have the script do it for entire directories of projects.

[Skorobagatko]

I like this utility - https://sonic.supermaailma.net/software
Haven't tried it on the "parent" folder of all projects though.

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by Skorobagatko

I like this utility - https://sonic.supermaailma.net/software
Haven't tried it on the "parent" folder of all projects though.

hmm, I ran it on a single project folder and got.



I showed no files and didn't show the 2 that Reaper cleanup wants to remove. Apparently it's designed to look at multiple projects in the same dir and compare their needed files.

Also, when I pointed it to a parent directory if found no project files meaning it didn't descend into subfolders.

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by Coachz

Is there a utility or can anyone write one that will clean multiple projects at once? I'd like to take all projects in a subdirectory and clean them all. Any *.rpp file. Not baks. Thanks for any ideas.

If you're not using Windows then just ignore this post!

I'm not sure how you store you projects but I use a separate folder for each project, only record in WAV, all recorded WAVs are saved to project root folder (or to subfolder one level below project root.

I made one where you drop project folders, it then gets the newest RPP file from the project folder, parses it to get WAV file names used in proj, then compares the names to WAV files found in either the project root or in a sub-folder if it exist (not both), coded in VB.Net.

I just copied some files so it would find unused WAVs,..



https://github.com/Edgemeal/VB.Net/b...eaner/Form1.vb

[Breeder]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

If you're not using Windows then just ignore this post!

I'm not sure how you store you projects but I use a separate folder for each project, only record in WAV, all recorded WAVs are saved to project root folder (or to subfolder one level below project root.

I made one where you drop project folders, it then gets the newest RPP file from the project folder, parses it to get WAV file names used in proj, then compares the names to WAV files found in either the project root or in a sub-folder if it exist (not both), coded in VB.Net.

I just copied some files so it would find unused WAVs,..



https://github.com/Edgemeal/VB.Net/b...eaner/Form1.vb

How do you run this? I downloaded the file, tried running from the cmd but no success? I thought windows would know what to do with .vb file natively?

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by Breeder

How do you run this? I downloaded the file, tried running from the cmd but no success? I thought windows would know what to do with .vb file natively?

That ^ file is just the main window form code, Its part of Visual Studio project (vb.net), you could download my vb git as zip, it only has this one project in it. I didn't want to upload this as exe, it deletes files!

[mixer]

Originally Posted by Coachz

When you do edits, glue, freezes and renders, Reaper creates new files and leaves behind dozens and dozens of files that are not longer needed. Cleanup throws those files out leaving a directory of audio files of only items in the current project.

If you were to go to an old backup, you might be missing files if you did a clean up but when I get to a good place in a project, I'm happy to clean up and leave the old behind. With backups ever 15 mins here, my last few backups are very close to my current project.

It looks like the .rpp project file has the listings of audio files being used under areas like
<SOURCE WAVE
FILE "AudioFiles\instruments2-004.wav"
>

so I could probably write a cleanup script that gets a list of them all and then removes all files not in the list. Then have the script do it for entire directories of projects.

Ok. Thanks for the info. I'll take a closer look at my projects.

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

If you're not using Windows then just ignore this post!

I'm not sure how you store you projects but I use a separate folder for each project, only record in WAV, all recorded WAVs are saved to project root folder (or to subfolder one level below project root.

I made one where you drop project folders, it then gets the newest RPP file from the project folder, parses it to get WAV file names used in proj, then compares the names to WAV files found in either the project root or in a sub-folder if it exist (not both), coded in VB.Net.

I just copied some files so it would find unused WAVs,..



https://github.com/Edgemeal/VB.Net/b...eaner/Form1.vb

Thank you but unfortunately I also use mp3s for my samples and some of them get dropped right into the tracks as media items.

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by Coachz

Thank you but unfortunately I also use mp3s for my samples and some of them get dropped right into the tracks as media items.

I mainly posted it because I thought you were C#/VB coder and could tweak it or get ideas to write your own. FWIW, Github updated, code now detects and removes unused WAV and MP3.

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

I mainly posted it because I thought you were C#/VB coder and could tweak it or get ideas to write your own. FWIW, Github updated, code now detects and removes unused WAV and MP3.

Cool. I'll check it out. I coded for 30 years and now try not to code but some things are a must have. :-) thank you edgemeal

[Coachz]

I compiled it and it works very nicely. Thanks for such a cool utility. I can just drag all my projects into it and it expertly throws out the unused wav and mp3 files !

Super job Edgemeal. Thanks ! Do you want me to post the exe for others ?

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by Coachz

I compiled it and it works very nicely. Thanks for such a cool utility. I can just drag all my projects into it and it expertly throws out the unused wav and mp3 files !

Super job Edgemeal. Thanks ! Do you want me to post the exe for others ?

If you think its safe enough, I don't really know enough about REAPER and plugins file storage, I just wrote it for what I see on my own setup, I was just worried it might delete wrong files on others/different setups.

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

If you think its safe enough, I don't really know enough about REAPER and plugins file storage, I just wrote it for what I see on my own setup, I was just worried it might delete wrong files on others/different setups.

Yeah, I think it's good. I also added a readme.txt to make sure users have backups. Thanks again and for anyone wanting to download a windows x86 version EXE (tested here in windows 10 64 bit) here is the link. Just click the download arrow on the top right.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pUV...ew?usp=sharing

Please let us know of any problems any of you might have and thanks again Edgemeal !

[Breeder]

SO NICE! Thank you both (Coachz & Edgemeal)!!!!!

[RJHollins]

Thanks !!

[Edgemeal]

A few things I wanted to add,..
v1.02 - June 18, 2019
+ Stay On Top option.
+ Play selected audio file.
+ Double click file opens Windows Explorer to file folder.
+ Dropping folders on exe launches app and processes folders.
+ Set icon for exe/app window.
# Compile changed to Any CPU (run as 64bit on x64 OS).

Considering the simple basic code used its faster then I thought it would be.

(source and exe in zip)
REAPER Project Cleaner v1.02 (Win10)
REAPER Project Cleaner v1.02 (Win7)

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

A few things I wanted to add, (testing on Win7).
v1.02 - June 18, 2019 (source and exe in zip)
+ Stay On Top option.
+ Play selected audio file.
+ Double click file opens Windows Explorer to file folder.
+ Dropping folders on exe launches app and processes folders.
+ Set icon for exe/app window.
# Compile changed to Any CPU (run as 64bit on x64 OS).

Considering the simple basic code used its faster then I thought it would be.

Doesn't run here. windows 10 64 bit

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by Coachz

Doesn't run here. windows 10 64 bit

I haven't looked at it on Win10, if I had to guess it be the reference to the windows media player (WMPLIb.dll), when I used COM dll on other app I re-compile code on Win10 PC and then it worked for Win10.

EDIT
Recompiled on win10 pc and it works on win10, so one exe for win7, one for win10 is easiest fix.

EDIT Both of these exe's run on Win7 and Win10 here, no errors. .

REAPER Project Cleaner v1.02 (Win10)
REAPER Project Cleaner v1.02 (Win7)

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

I haven't looked at it on Win10, if I had to guess it be the reference to the windows media player (WMPLIb.dll), when I used COM dll on other app I re-compile code on Win10 PC and then it worked for Win10.

EDIT
Recompiled on win10 pc and it works on win10, so one exe for win7, one for win10 is easiest fix.

REAPER Project Cleaner v1.02 (Win10)
REAPER Project Cleaner v1.02 (Win7)

Still doesn't run and this time on download chrome said the file was dangerous. I dl'd it anyways and then unzipped it. When running the exe it popped up Extract/Run dialog and fired of a virus threat warning. no bueno

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by Coachz

Still doesn't run and this time on download chrome said the file was dangerous. I dl'd it anyways and then unzipped it. When running the exe it popped up Extract/Run dialog and fired of a virus threat warning. no bueno

Google gives same warning here for your zip.
I tried the win7 exe on my win10 and visa versa, no errors, guess you have to debug the code, I'll just leave both zips posted.

[karbomusic]

^It's either/or/both reputation based and zone based. You likely can't get rid of the browser complaining unless it is signed (not worth the extreme expense) and singing may not do it again, due to reputation based. There is usually a link on the page to report it as a false alarm but with a handful of people using it, it likely won't make much difference.

One could right-click the downloaded file > properties and see if there is an unblock button, if so, click it as that's the zone discrepancy block but the download warning is just something to live with.

[Jeffsounds]

Early version runs fine on WIN 10 here. Nice!

[weblordpepe]

Originally Posted by Skorobagatko

I like this utility - https://sonic.supermaailma.net/software
Haven't tried it on the "parent" folder of all projects though.

holy cow. this is what i wanted. this is my dream come trough. thank you magical forum fairy. i will be on my way now. tra la la

[weblordpepe]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

I mainly posted it because I thought you were C#/VB coder and could tweak it or get ideas to write your own. FWIW, Github updated, code now detects and removes unused WAV and MP3.

duuuude! awesomee

[Edgemeal]

Warning! Was just checking my 2019 folder for unused files, one project shows two unused files, so I checked it out and the two files are actually in use by ReaSamplOmatic5000 (which I rarely ever use) , but since the files are not listed as a FILE in the project that cleaner app thinks the files are unused! ! !

Probably should keep those RS5K files in their own sub folder instead of the root of the project.

EDIT I think I figured out how to detect if WAV in a project folder is in use by ReaSamplOmatic5000, its not pretty but seems to be working!
EDIT 2 Updated Function RS5K, if plugin set to multiple files.

Update this function,

Private Function GetProjWAVs(...) 
...
        Dim files As New List(Of String)
        files.AddRange(RS5K(projData)) ' < ADD this to the function 
...

and add this to the project..

#Region "Get file paths used in ReaSamplOmatic5000"

    Private Function FromBase64(ByVal input As String) As String
        Dim b64 As Byte() = Convert.FromBase64String(input)
        Return System.Text.Encoding.UTF8.GetString(b64)
    End Function

    Private Function RS5K(projData As String) As List(Of String)
        Dim find_s As String = "      <VST ""VSTi: ReaSamplOmatic5000 (Cockos)"""
        Dim find_e As String = "      >"
        Dim filepaths As New List(Of String)
        For n = 1 To 9999 ' limited to 9,999 instances of the plugin
            Dim rs = GetTextBetween(projData, find_s, find_e, n)
            If rs = "" Then Exit For ' no more RS5K plugins found
            Dim lines = rs.Split({Environment.NewLine}, StringSplitOptions.RemoveEmptyEntries)
            Dim txt As String = "" ' convert base64 to text
            For i = 2 To lines.Length - 1 ' according to wiki info files start on line 2.
                txt &= FromBase64(lines(i).Trim).Replace(vbNullChar, "*")
            Next
            If Not txt.StartsWith("*") Then
                Dim file As String = txt.Substring(0, txt.IndexOf("*")).ToLower
                If file.Contains("|") Then
                    ' plugin set to multiple files
                    Try
                        file = file.Substring(0, file.IndexOf(">"c))
                    Catch ex As Exception
                    End Try
                    Dim allFiles = file.Split("|"c)
                    For Each f In allFiles                        
                        If Not filepaths.Contains(f) Then filepaths.Add(f)
                    Next
                Else ' plugin set to single file only
                    If Not filepaths.Contains(file) Then filepaths.Add(file)
                End If
            End If
        Next

        Return filepaths
    End Function

    Private Function GetTextBetween(MainText As String, StartText As String, EndText As String, Optional occurance As Integer = 1) As String
        If occurance < 1 Then occurance = 1
        Try
            Return MainText.Split({StartText}, StringSplitOptions.None)(occurance).Split({EndText}, StringSplitOptions.None)(0)
        Catch
            Return ""
        End Try
    End Function

#End Region

[chip mcdonald]

I wish there was a "render all projects" function.

[DarrenH]

I work the same way (which is probably the most common 'best practice' anyway.

I recently decided to clean all my project folders. I have the 'clean project folder' action in my main menu so I basically got some coffee, sat down and went through loading and cleaning every current or recent project. It takes a little time but my soul (and hard drive) were lighter.

Originally Posted by Coachz

Well, all of my projects are independent and none of their audio is intermingled. Every one of my project is an island.

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by DarrenH

I work the same way (which is probably the most common 'best practice' anyway.

I recently decided to clean all my project folders. I have the 'clean project folder' action in my main menu so I basically got some coffee, sat down and went through loading and cleaning every current or recent project. It takes a little time but my soul (and hard drive) were lighter.

Yeah I have to be aware to keep any files used by samplers outside of the project so that cleaning the directory doesn't delete them because from what I've heard Reaper does not see those which makes sense. But if you drag and drop a cowbell sample into your project directory and use it in one of your sample players then cleaning will probably delete it.

[Skorobagatko]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

I haven't looked at it on Win10, if I had to guess it be the reference to the windows media player (WMPLIb.dll), when I used COM dll on other app I re-compile code on Win10 PC and then it worked for Win10.

EDIT
Recompiled on win10 pc and it works on win10, so one exe for win7, one for win10 is easiest fix.

EDIT Both of these exe's run on Win7 and Win10 here, no errors. .

REAPER Project Cleaner v1.02 (Win10)
REAPER Project Cleaner v1.02 (Win7)

Is it the latest version?

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by Skorobagatko

Is it the latest version?

Yes, and I just removed them. Use at your own risk!!!

Its easy to misuse the app if you don't understand what they do, even I was caught off guard because of the way I saved one project and had to write a workaround (post #33).

[Punchipum]

What happened to this? The idea was very good.

[AudioBabble]

Originally Posted by Punchipum

What happened to this? The idea was very good.

Ditto!