Old 09-13-2021, 04:20 PM   #1
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I'm intrigued by the idea of intelligent EQ and compression that is interacting across instances and Neutron Standard is $79 instead of $250 atm ($50 if you have any other iZotope products).

However, the "Standard" version omits the IMO very standard feature of allowing the modules to run as plugins...
EDIT: It's only the individual modules that don't run as plugins; they are still all available in the Neutron plugin. It's like a modular channel strip.

I'm 100% unlikely to use this product standalone, so I'm wondering if it's worth getting now just for the discount even though I will only use it when eventually, ostensibly the Advanced version goes on sale and I can upgrade to the plugin versions.

Thoughts? Does it even live up to the hype?
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Old 09-14-2021, 05:03 AM   #2
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I've been very impressed with Neutron's capabilities and would highly recommend it. I don't know what your level of expertise is but, in my case, despite many years of trying, my compression skills remain limited to fairly basic stuff. Neutron achieves comp settings that I can only dream of. The Track Assistant feature is a major time saver for me, over-all.

I agree that it would be nice to have the option to use individual modules as plug-ins, but you can insert the full dealio on each track- think of it as a channel strip. From there, you can enable, or disable, the individual modules as you see fit.
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I agree that it would be nice to have the option to use individual modules as plug-ins, but you can insert the full dealio on each track- think of it as a channel strip.
Ah good to know, thanks!
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Old 09-16-2021, 08:13 AM   #4
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$79 for Neutron is a no-brainer, get it! Like doug said, you can disable modules inside the plugin, which will save CPU and PDC depending on modules. But for what you get, even at full price it's worth it.

Seriously, that is a steal for such a powerful plugin. Izotope stuff is $$$$$ so if you can get in, do it. Then when you upgrade it's also cheaper.
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Old 09-20-2021, 10:23 AM   #5
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I would not recommend Izotope to someone without knowing his music genre. Izotope makes "modern" plugins.
Just one example: there is a kind of analyzer plugin I think called balancer It analyzes and makes suggestions refering to 4 frequency
ranges. In a small group of music producers we tested it. Well, I remember that Billie Jean is regarded as one of the best mixed tracks ever. I am not a fan of mj at all, but mixing quality is top notch.
Izotope's plugin analyzed the track with the result that the mix is not well balanced at all!
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Fortunately I'm not stuck in any particular genre.

My interest in Neutron isn't about getting mix suggestions or automating things with AI, it's about having an EQ and compressor on every track that can communicate with every other instance.

Ever since I first learned about EQ and compression I wondered why that didn't exist. Seems like a perfect job for AI to analyze a particular sound you want to be upfront, determine precisely where it clashes with any other sound and dynamically duck those frequencies whenever the lead sound is present. Only when it's needed.

It's just not a part of mixing I enjoy; very tedious to hunt for the mud when you have many tracks and try to carve that out.

In any case I bought it. It was $50. Haven't used it yet but hopefully I will...
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I would not recommend Izotope to someone without knowing his music genre. Izotope makes "modern" plugins.
Just one example: there is a kind of analyzer plugin I think called balancer It analyzes and makes suggestions refering to 4 frequency
ranges. In a small group of music producers we tested it. Well, I remember that Billie Jean is regarded as one of the best mixed tracks ever. I am not a fan of mj at all, but mixing quality is top notch.
Izotope's plugin analyzed the track with the result that the mix is not well balanced at all!
the AI is an option and is not even the best part of Neutron. It has nothing to do with genre or whatever you're saying, which doesn't even make sense. You wouldn't recommend something based on the anecdotal that isn't even the same plugin? wtf are you high on? and wtf is a "modern plugin" exactly? As opposed to what, a 1990's 32bit non anti-aliasing plugin that crashes?

But, agreed that the AI doesn't work very well, at least for me. I've had these since AI came to Izotope and never once had good luck with it. But again, that's not the main thing with any Izotope stuff and if you're relying on that or basing your judgement on how that works, you are missing the POINT and should probably just hire a mix engineer.
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