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Old 01-18-2019, 01:27 PM   #1
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Default How to create transparent empty item? Not global settings

Hi, I often create empty items for chords and always these items have a track color. But today I found one of these items transparent. And I do not know how it happened. I did not change the settings and theme settings for this. Moreover, they work immediately for all items. If I set the transparent background in the settings, then it will work for all items, not for one. But I created only one such. Can anyone explain how to do this?

For example my screenvideo from youtube
https://youtu.be/dRz37VWvXqg
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Old 01-20-2019, 05:00 AM   #2
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Just change the item color.
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:17 AM   #3
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There is no color "transparent"
And change the item color do not working with empty items
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:52 AM   #4
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Your video does indeed show some peculiar behavior. Usually empty item has the color it has been set to or shows through the track color or the color from the underlying item.

But one of the empty items in that video seems like it shows clearly the underlying item colors and doesn't show the track colors at all. Kinda like it's missing the color mask or whatever that layer would be called, so it just stays totally transparent. I think this is some kind of glitch.

Do you have a saved project where this empty item still exists? A small sample project with this item in it could be interesting to test...
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Take it
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:02 PM   #6
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This is when you have 'spectral edits show spectrogram' on an empty item it has nothing to render so becomes invisible
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:24 PM   #7
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It is impossible to apply 'spectral edits show spectrogram' on an empty item. Show me if you can do it
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:20 AM   #8
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This is when you have 'spectral edits show spectrogram' on an empty item it has nothing to render so becomes invisible
That seems to be related to this. So rather than being transparent, apart from the Notes button, the empty item becomes invisible. In the RPP file, that specific empty item has following:

<ITEM
POSITION 83.31081081081081
SNAPOFFS 0
LENGTH 0.81081081081084
LOOP 1
ALLTAKES 0
FADEIN 2 0 0 2 0 1
FADEOUT 2 0 0 2 0 -1
MUTE 0
COLOR 20752982 R
SEL 0
IGUID {F413E324-442E-4CF7-9405-E4A988F13FC0}
IID 7331
<NOTES
|A7
>
IMGRESOURCEFLAGS 2
SPECTROGRAM 1

The bolded lines are the only ones the other empty items don't have in that project.

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edit: Reproducing this isn't that simple though, on a new project even adding those lines to the empty item doesn't do anything special. Same if this empty item is copied from the example project to another one, it acts normally there.

Also, in a new project toggling scpectrogram does nothing to the empty items, in this project they all become invisible when doing that.

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Old 01-22-2019, 08:51 AM   #9
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So if this is a glitch, can we request to add such a function? I like transparent items with chords or text
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