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11-17-2009, 04:33 PM
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Human being with feelings
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MP3 Render(Data Tags)
I would like the ability to store a small note in Reaper that gets applied to a finished rendered mp3 as in some other Daws I've used.Would save me manually doing it every time I update a render.
THX
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11-17-2009, 06:49 PM
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+1
id3 tags ROCK!
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11-18-2009, 12:42 AM
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+1
yes, would be very usefull to have it in reaper.
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11-18-2009, 07:20 AM
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I'll +1 that as well.
Tagging an MP3 can be a pain. There should be a tab or something to allow you to fill in the necessary info and save it with the project.
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11-18-2009, 05:34 PM
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There's some free software to do it but it would be nice if it was in the rendering section of Reaper and could be saved for re-use.I'm sure it can't be a massive amount of coding?
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11-18-2009, 06:48 PM
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+1
this request is along the same lines, except for cd format: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=46526
i'd like to see the ability to edit the tag info (or whatever you call it) for all available rendering formats. i like the idea of the info being stored for future renders.
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12-02-2009, 06:21 PM
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Code Monkey
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This would be nice for sure. Someone should create the FR in the tracker!
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12-17-2009, 06:22 PM
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+1
And +1 some more.
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12-19-2009, 11:39 PM
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07-19-2010, 07:32 AM
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Transferred:
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Originally Posted by brainwreck
artist/title/etc. info would be useful for all media types.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adhara
Yep, project infos such as Title, artist, year, album, genre may be stored as macros such as %title%, %artist% etc.. and could then be used:
- to write tags to render file (every format accepting Tags)
- to give more flexibility in naming recorded files (added feature to current: track name, track number and timestamp).
The latter feature is very useful when media files go in a shared directory....
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11-16-2010, 09:43 PM
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+1
I'd really love this feature as well -- thank you!
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12-15-2010, 10:18 AM
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Human being with feelings
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+1
I go through many, many different renders (as few as 20 or as many as 200) as I share tracks for critique. I output to OGG and then convert to MP3 using mediamonkey, where I tag them. Needless to say the extra step, although a small one, gets tiring after a while. Would love to have artist, title, etc. as project settings that propagate into renders. TIA.
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07-01-2014, 05:06 AM
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Human being with feelings
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+1
I believe project info for all media renders would be great.
HUGE time saver.
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01-27-2015, 05:25 AM
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+1
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I am surprised why this is not a standard feature?? Everyone of us at some point needs to Render our work and the ID it.
IMHO ID3 and WAV tagging should be standard. I understand that there are probably much bigger fish to fry for the Devs, but this is low hanging fruit, easy to implement and surprise and delight us all.
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01-27-2015, 05:32 AM
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there is no wav-tagging. you cant tag a wav, you can tag ogg, flac, mp3, ape.
and there is mp3tag, a free programm. there are no tagging-needs that this cant adress. to build that into Reaper is a waste of time and energy, because its a lot of sourcecode to write to make this right und really useful.
for simple tagging something in your mp3 go to the windows explorer, highlight your mp3 and type your tags into the windows info-field. everything in explorer. simple.
another wuestion is why the op needs to tag from Reaper rendered mp3 for use in another DAW? its not that clever to share files to further work with between DAWs as mp3 ...
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01-27-2015, 06:28 AM
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If you have the sws extensions installed you can use shane's 'autorender'.
Just type in shane in the actions list filter.
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01-27-2015, 06:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whiteaxxxe
there is no wav-tagging. you cant tag a wav, you can tag ogg, flac, mp3, ape.
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With much respect to you whiteaxxxe.. I refer you to this snippet from Wikipedia on wavs. I have several programs that read wav meta data. I will confess it isn't employed universally but it is specified in the wav standard. A lot of sample libraries use the meta tags. I am surprised you have not come across it already.
Metadata[edit]
As a derivative of RIFF, WAV files can be tagged with metadata in the INFO chunk. In addition, WAV files can embed any kind of metadata, including but not limited to Extensible Metadata Platform (XMP) data or ID3 tags[26] in extra chunks. Applications may not handle this extra information or may expect to see it in a particular place. Although the RIFF specification requires that applications ignore chunks they do not recognize, some applications are confused by additional chunks.[citation needed]
Further to this, you are indeed correct. There are plenty of good tagging apps out there. I already use mp3tag and I am happy with it. I just think it can't be that much work in including a few extra text input fields: Title, Artist, Date etc.. I am no coder, but I think this could be a quick win.
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01-27-2015, 06:43 AM
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Thank you
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Originally Posted by witti
If you have the sws extensions installed you can use shane's 'autorender'.
Just type in shane in the actions list filter.
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Thanks will check this out..
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01-29-2015, 07:43 PM
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settags.py in da stash
Quote:
Originally Posted by uksnowy
I just think it can't be that much work in including a few extra text input fields: Title, Artist, Date etc.. I am no coder, but I think this could be a quick win.
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If you don't mind a little Python usage there is my "settags.py" in the Reaper Stash.
Oh no! The Stash appears to be crashed! Cain't even ping it. Google cache and the Wayback Machine seem stumped too.
When The Stash comes back,
stash.reaper.fm/v/16060/settags.py
You'll need to install stagger
Doesn't look like I can attach a .py file so here it is with a .txt extension-extension just delete that part to make it .py
settags.py.txt
Enjoy!
As far as "quick win" it turns out that metadata tagging is non-trivial, there being so many versions and such spotty support even in major products from large companies.
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02-04-2015, 04:45 AM
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OK fair enough.. I am convinced that it is probably more hassle than it is worth to implement.
Thank you all for you suggestions and solutions.
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06-20-2016, 06:42 AM
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+1 for tagging!
That would provide the possibility to store additional information in the audio file like the project notes, and you would be able to sort your audio files in your player.
It would be nice to have an additional button in the render dialog for foobar2000 style tagging with wildcard support, looking something like this:
(Note that there'd be an additional $projectnotes wildcard required)
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09-07-2016, 01:53 PM
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Bump on this one.
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09-08-2016, 05:54 AM
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+1 This would be really helpful
Also being able to add an image (cd artwork) would be amazing
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10-05-2016, 01:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Zeronaut
+1 This would be really helpful
Also being able to add an image (cd artwork) would be amazing
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+1 for this one, too.
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10-05-2016, 04:24 PM
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This is one of many reasons why I use WaveLab for finalizing masters. REAPER is great at a lot of things, but it's not quite there yet for being considered a mastering DAW for 100% of the job.
Currently I use REAPER for a majority of the audio processing via plugins and analog gear as well as cleaning up certain spots by sending them over to RX5.
After that, WaveLab is used to sequence the master and add all the Track IDs, CD-Text, ISRC Codes, UPC/EAN (for CD/DDP masters), metadata (many formats of metadata) and artwork and then rendering all the various master formats that clients may need including reference mp3s with the metadata and artwork added so the files look professional.
WaveLab makes it so easy and automated that it's worth using a separate app for it.
I've offered to help make REAPER better full on mastering solution but it would take some serious work in my opinion.
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10-06-2016, 06:48 PM
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+1 for mp3 metadata tags
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10-07-2016, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MRMJP
This is one of many reasons why I use WaveLab for finalizing masters. REAPER is great at a lot of things, but it's not quite there yet for being considered a mastering DAW for 100% of the job.
Currently I use REAPER for a majority of the audio processing via plugins and analog gear as well as cleaning up certain spots by sending them over to RX5.
After that, WaveLab is used to sequence the master and add all the Track IDs, CD-Text, ISRC Codes, UPC/EAN (for CD/DDP masters), metadata (many formats of metadata) and artwork and then rendering all the various master formats that clients may need including reference mp3s with the metadata and artwork added so the files look professional.
WaveLab makes it so easy and automated that it's worth using a separate app for it.
I've offered to help make REAPER better full on mastering solution but it would take some serious work in my opinion.
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Agreed, but it would be worth it since it would bring more professionals into the reaper camp.
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11-03-2016, 02:27 AM
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+1 for mp3 tagging.
Should be some project-setting,
and option to include when rendering
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11-03-2016, 04:39 AM
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Here was my reascript experiments about that:
Scripts: TagLib (various) - Cockos Confederated Forums
Thing is that it doesn't work at render, but on files on the project.
But maybe it can help anyway.
More variable could be added, but there is limitations (like no custom metadata field, no image...).
A native project setting solution that would work right from render would be better. Meanwhile, Shane Autorender from SWS can help too.
Last edited by X-Raym; 11-03-2016 at 04:52 AM.
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11-27-2016, 10:06 AM
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A very healthy bump for a native solution for this in 5.30!
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11-27-2016, 10:33 AM
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Don't get your hopes up! I doubt that Justin has a lot of experience dealing with mp3 tags...
jk
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01-07-2017, 04:00 PM
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Bump!
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01-14-2017, 09:46 PM
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Human being with feelings
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bump and +1
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02-02-2017, 03:26 PM
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Human being with feelings
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A healthy bump here.
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04-04-2017, 01:57 PM
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+1
It's good to think about proper taggin' of all render formats
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04-04-2017, 02:00 PM
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Wavs cant be tagged.
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04-04-2017, 02:32 PM
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04-04-2017, 04:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by haervo
Wavs cant be tagged.
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WAVs can be tagged. WaveLab can do it as well as a few other apps. Very few apps can read it however.
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04-06-2017, 04:51 PM
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MP3 Metatags yep!
+1 on this one. Should include ISRC and UPC code, and image.
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04-06-2017, 05:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitehorse
+1 on this one. Should include ISRC and UPC code, and image.
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This is a big part of why I use REAPER and WaveLab to master. REAPER is great at so many things but if I assemble the final master in WaveLab, it's so easy to manage all the CD-Text and metadata with minimal data entry. Whether I render WAV, mp3, DDP, vinyl pre-master etc., all the data is where I need it to be without extra work...including artwork for reference mp3 files and WAV though very few apps can display art in WAV files.
If I was mastering a few projects a year, it wouldn't be a big deal, but when you master a record a day, you need to streamline these tasks as much as possible and REAPER just isn't there yet.
I'd love to see REAPER add a WaveLab montage mode that is designed to help finish all mastering projects with ease.
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