Old 09-19-2011, 06:27 PM   #1
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How do I zoom in the midi editor. I set my cursor over the midi data i want and double click on the midi data and it opens the window not at that location and I'm using those little buttons on the bottom right to zoom which is not easy. Is there a zoom marquee or something ? And how to get it open on the area I'm at please. thanks !

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Old 09-19-2011, 08:29 PM   #2
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Ctrl and mousewheel.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:34 PM   #3
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How do I zoom in the midi editor. I set my cursor over the midi data i want and double click on the midi data and it opens the window not at that location and I'm using those little buttons on the bottom right to zoom which is not easy. Is there a zoom marquee or something ? And how to get it open on the area I'm at please. thanks !
I'm not sure what is default and what isn't any more. I think Up/Down arrows are default for zoom horizontally. I've changed my mouse wheel to CTRl+ wheel is zoom horizontally, Shift + wheel in zoom vertically and Alt + wheel is scroll horizontally. Wheel by itself is scroll vertically (duh). And opening to the place you're at, well, I'd love to know that too. Cause as it is, it makes no sense to me.
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thanks, maybe I need to file a bug report so midi editor opens where you click? I figured I was missing something but if this is not the case we surely need it.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:47 AM   #5
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thanks, maybe I need to file a bug report so midi editor opens where you click? I figured I was missing something but if this is not the case we surely need it.
Yes. I searched the bugs and FRs for "MIDI editor open" and, as hard as it may be to believe, there doesn't seem to be already a bug/FR filed for this. It nags me every time... The MIDI editor surely needs to open centered at where the mouse is clicked, I doubt anyone expects anything else... So, go ahead, just do it
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:29 AM   #7
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Heh heh, I thought there was a setting for this but I've never found it. This has always bugged me too.

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how is it with all the midi people using reaper that this one slipped by? To me it seems very basic.
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Old 09-20-2011, 03:17 PM   #10
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In the meantime, we have an action in the Midi Editor actions for:

Go to play cursor
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Go to edit cursor
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Old 09-20-2011, 03:31 PM   #11
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In the meantime, we have an action in the Midi Editor actions for:

Go to play cursor
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Yeah, but can you tie it in with an action from the main window like "Open items in primary external editor"? If not it's still a hassle.
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Actually I've got the shorcut key "E" tied to "Open items in primary external editor" and by tieing "Go to edit cursor" in the ME I just have to double click "E". Heh heh, not real quick though.
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how do you double click an "E" ?

Zoom out ALL and a simple marquee zoom would do me fine if they were added to the midi editor
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:26 PM   #14
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how do you double click an "E" ?
Well you just type "E" twice. Hit it once, hesitate slightly and hit it again. It's actually working pretty good. Of course the ME is already zoomed in the way I left it but in most cases that's okay. I usually want to be zoomed in that way anyway. Before you posted about "Go to edit cursor" I would hit "E" and then hit play (space bar) to get it lined up.

Actually I thought that was what this thread was all about, when opening the ME it would open right where the edit cursor is in the main window. Not so?

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Zoom out ALL and a simple marquee zoom would do me fine if they were added to the midi editor
That would be okay too.

Also I've got my mousewheel set up to zoom in/out horizontily.
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Very interesting workaround. A zoom marquee would be way better than zoom horiz/vert on mouse. With a marquee, I could just select what i care about and be done. With mouse it's WAY too may wheel moves.
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That method gets me way too zoomed out.

Anyone know how to open the midi editor to my notes zoom level ?
Pic one is my midi data, pic two is after I double click, it opens way too far zoomed out.


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That method gets me way too zoomed out.

Anyone know how to open the midi editor to my notes zoom level ?
Pic one is my midi data, pic two is after I double click, it opens way too far zoomed out.
Hi Coachz, the midi editor opens to the same zoom level that it's closed.

There's this action "View: Zoom to selected notes/cc" but you have to select the notes/CC before it will work.

Maybe an action "View: Zoom to selected time". Unfortunately the ME doesn't really recognize selected time.
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Hi Coachz, the midi editor opens to the same zoom level that it's closed.

There's this action "View: Zoom to selected notes/cc" but you have to select the notes/CC before it will work.

Maybe an action "View: Zoom to selected time". Unfortunately the ME doesn't really recognize selected time.
Well, along the same lines of what you suggested earlier about using E to open in primary editor, once in the MIDI Editor you could assign E to a custom macro. I called it Zoom to time:

Edit: Select all notes in time selection
View: Zoom to selected notes/CC
Edit: Unselect all

I put that last one in there so I don't accidentally do any unintentional editing. The one scenario this doesn't work with is looped MIDI items.

You could even get crafty with a macro assigned to "E" in the main window with:

SWS: Save time selection, slot 5
Time selection: Set time selection to items
Item: Open items in primary external editor (or whichever command you prefer)

This would allow you to revert back to your previous time selection if you didn't want to lose it, or if it was linked to your loop points or something.
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Well, along the same lines of what you suggested earlier about using E to open in primary editor, once in the MIDI Editor you could assign E to a custom macro. I called it Zoom to time:

Edit: Select all notes in time selection
View: Zoom to selected notes/CC
Edit: Unselect all
Aah, thanks chris, I forgot about "Edit: Select all notes in time selection", that might be real handy.

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I put that last one in there so I don't accidentally do any unintentional editing. The one scenario this doesn't work with is looped MIDI items.
Good idea.

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You could even get crafty with a macro assigned to "E" in the main window with:

SWS: Save time selection, slot 5
Time selection: Set time selection to items
Item: Open items in primary external editor (or whichever command you prefer)

This would allow you to revert back to your previous time selection if you didn't want to lose it, or if it was linked to your loop points or something.
Also good idea. I almost never use separate items on my midi tracks though, they usually go from start to end of the song.
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...I almost never use separate items on my midi tracks though, they usually go from start to end of the song.
Gotcha. Nothing a little Marque to item/time selection modifier can't take care of.

Here's something totally off topic but might still be worth sharing, from a logic and workflow point of view. I created a tool a little while back to mimic Cubase's "Play" tool. This tool is represented with a speaker icon and plays only the audio that is being clicked on, starting exactly where the mouse cursor is. Most of the actions in Reaper that I tried to use to recreate this tool seem to play the item from the beginning, which is not what I wanted. So I set this up:

Item: Split item under mouse cursor (select right)
Xenakios/SWS: Preview selected media item at track fader volume (toggle)
SWS: Select previous item, keeping current selection (across tracks)
Item: Heal splits in items

I just right click on the toolbar icon and I have a "Play" Tool. The real gem in this is that the second command toggles. So I left click once to start it and again to stop it. The temporary split is gone immediately, so there's no confusion. The only potential issue is that it doesn't play through folders, insert or send effects. But for my purposes, that's just as well.

Again, way off topic.
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Can we get some midi love on the zoom please ?
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So why there is still no marquee zoom in MIDI editor? Mouse modifiers really missing this!

Please add also MIDDLE(!) drag
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So why there is still no marquee zoom in MIDI editor?
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Coachz. : ) It's weird to search for an answer to a question and be taken to an 8 year old thread that you started. Sometimes I feel (not Reaper specific) that if we return to visit 2011 we won't have any answers to our questions from then

Maybe things will improve for me now that I know I'm missing marquee zoom in the midi editor. I knew there was SOMETHING missing.
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Coachz. : ) It's weird to search for an answer to a question and be taken to an 8 year old thread that you started. Sometimes I feel (not Reaper specific) that if we return to visit 2011 we won't have any answers to our questions from then

Maybe things will improve for me now that I know I'm missing marquee zoom in the midi editor. I knew there was SOMETHING missing.
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Old 05-04-2019, 08:59 AM   #27
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Always found Midi to be Reapers Weak Point,compaired to other Daws.

so mostly work with Audio
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For years, now.

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Always found Midi to be Reapers Weak Point,compaired to other Daws.
That's because you didn't explore everything that's possible. You can have a very fast MIDI workflow in Reaper when you set it up like that. Change mouse modifiers, change keyboard shortcuts, custom actions, scripts...

For example: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=176878

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