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09-15-2020, 01:49 PM
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No sound from right side when panned 100% (not a speaker issue)
Hi.
So, I have some of my tracks hard panned and when soloed I realized that the tracks panned to the right have no sound although the meters indicate that the track is playing. It's not a speaker issue, because when not soloed, the speaker works just fine. What's particularly odd is that when I solo the tracks panned hard left, they come out of both speakers. I know this is probably some sort of stereo/mono issue but I don't know what that issue is.
Please help.
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09-15-2020, 05:10 PM
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Have you checked your Master? Right click on the master volume fader and check hardware output assignments.
Also, what pan mode are you using?
Does this only happen with REAPER or, say, also Media Player or whatever?
Last edited by nicholas; 09-16-2020 at 05:09 AM.
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10-27-2020, 11:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholas
Have you checked your Master? Right click on the master volume fader and check hardware output assignments.
Also, what pan mode are you using?
Does this only happen with REAPER or, say, also Media Player or whatever?
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Only happens in Reaper. Pan Mode is default setting. What should the Master volume hardware output assignments be?
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10-27-2020, 11:59 AM
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Make sure your outputs are 1/2 not 1/1 under output range in audio devices. If it is set to 1/1 then panning left works but panning right turns down left and right never does anything.
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10-27-2020, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by karbomusic
Make sure your outputs are 1/2 not 1/1 under output range in audio devices. If it is set to 1/1 then panning left works but panning right turns down left and right never does anything.
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I believe they are set that way. I tried to add a screen shot but I'm having trouble doing that
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10-27-2020, 12:23 PM
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If it is just 'some' tracks, make sure none of those have 'mono' versions of plugins, which some plugins offer, which will cause the same problem if memory serves.
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10-27-2020, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by karbomusic
If it is just 'some' tracks, make sure none of those have 'mono' versions of plugins, which some plugins offer, which will cause the same problem if memory serves.
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It is all tracks including ones that don't have any plugins attached to them at all.
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10-27-2020, 12:45 PM
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Sounds like an audio input/output setting error to me
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10-27-2020, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by valy
Sounds like an audio input/output setting error to me
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What kind of error?
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10-27-2020, 01:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dylandisaster
What kind of error?
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the one described in post 4
what are your first & last settings for output in preferences / audio / device?
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10-27-2020, 02:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by domzy
the one described in post 4
what are your first & last settings for output in preferences / audio / device?
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1 and 2. I attempted to attach a screen grab again but I'm not sure it worked.
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10-27-2020, 04:45 PM
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Create a new, empty project then drag in an .mp3 or .wav of a commercial song. Does it happen when you play that back?
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10-27-2020, 06:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by valy
Create a new, empty project then drag in an .mp3 or .wav of a commercial song. Does it happen when you play that back?
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Yes it does.
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10-27-2020, 08:14 PM
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Did you check what nicholas said? What's your master fader look like? It doesn't have the mono button on, right? Click its routing button and let's see its outputs
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10-28-2020, 09:07 AM
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Hi. What interface are you using? I sometimes got issues like this when using m-audio Delta. Their "Control" software would sometimes do something odd to the panning.
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10-29-2020, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martifingers
Hi. What interface are you using? I sometimes got issues like this when using m-audio Delta. Their "Control" software would sometimes do something odd to the panning.
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I'm using the Focusrite Scarlett6i6
Quote:
Originally Posted by valy
Did you check what nicholas said? What's your master fader look like? It doesn't have the mono button on, right? Click its routing button and let's see its outputs
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No, the mono button is not on. I attached a screen grab of what the master track routing looks like.
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10-29-2020, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dylandisaster
I'm using the Focusrite Scarlett6i6
No, the mono button is not on. I attached a screen grab of what the master track routing looks like.
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Check settings on your outputs in the Focusrite Control software. Sometimes things can get hosed in there.
If nothing's wrong there, something must be wrong routing wise in Reaper.
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10-29-2020, 02:22 PM
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shot in the dark....
You using a presonus Central Station?
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10-29-2020, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crashwaggon
Check settings on your outputs in the Focusrite Control software. Sometimes things can get hosed in there.
If nothing's wrong there, something must be wrong routing wise in Reaper.
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What would I be looking for in the output settings on the Focusrite Control software?
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Originally Posted by redddog
shot in the dark....
You using a presonus Central Station?
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I'm not sure what that is.
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10-29-2020, 02:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dylandisaster
What would I be looking for in the output settings on the Focusrite Control software?
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First and foremost that you have output 1-2 selected and that panning is centered.
It basically should look like this:
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10-29-2020, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crashwaggon
First and foremost that you have output 1-2 selected and that panning is centered.
It basically should look like this:
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I believe I have mine set up that way, but I attached a screen shot.
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10-29-2020, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dylandisaster
I believe I have mine set up that way, but I attached a screen shot.
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Ah, you have the older one.
I think I got it.
Below the fader row, next to where it says "Routing Preset", your monitor output 2 should be "Mix 1 (R)" instead of DAW 1. DAW 1 is the same as Mix 1 (L) so you're basically sending your left side to both speakers.
Try that and see if it works.
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10-29-2020, 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crashwaggon
Ah, you have the older one.
I think I got it.
Below the fader row, next to where it says "Routing Preset", your monitor output 2 should be "Mix 1 (R)" instead of DAW 1. DAW 1 is the same as Mix 1 (L) so you're basically sending your left side to both speakers.
Try that and see if it works.
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Eureka!!! Thank you so much! I've been struggling with that for the longest time.
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10-29-2020, 03:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dylandisaster
Eureka!!! Thank you so much! I've been struggling with that for the longest time.
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Excellent! Glad to hear.
Knew it had to be a routing thing somewhere and your Reaper settings looked right
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10-29-2020, 03:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crashwaggon
Excellent! Glad to hear.
Knew it had to be a routing thing somewhere and your Reaper settings looked right
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Thank you again! I think this is the first time I've actually had an issue solved using the forum.
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10-30-2020, 01:48 AM
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Also, bearing in mind you have a 6i6, it might be worthwhile enabling all the possible ins and outs.
The two menus (inputs and outputs) are drop-downs and will allow you to enable all the ins and outs if you want to.
This is always a good idea, especially if you ever get round to recording more than one player at a time, as you can then use some of the spare outputs to offer individual monitoring outs for each player... well, up to four I suppose, bearing in mind you`ll need 1 and 2 for your mains.
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10-30-2020, 02:45 AM
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Tip ... maybe: I believe in mix control you can save your configuration once you got it right.
Also, there is a factory default button which I have found very useful in these situations as the default seems to work on my system without any adjustments to suit.
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10-30-2020, 06:58 AM
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This forum answers my stupid questions 99% of the time.
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10-31-2020, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertP
Tip ... maybe: I believe in mix control you can save your configuration once you got it right.
Also, there is a factory default button which I have found very useful in these situations as the default seems to work on my system without any adjustments to suit.
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Not only can you save it, but (on my 18i20 at least) you can save it to the hardware so that it remembers your routing even if your computer is turned off. Very useful.
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02-03-2021, 05:37 PM
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Same issue as the original post
HI to all those who are reading and helping, people like me can't do this without you.
So, it appears I have a similar problem however I believe that my issue is within REAPER as I have checked my hardware which is a Behringer XR18 (however I am sick of it in too many ways), nevertheless I am pretty certain it is within the DAW. I could be wrong, I certainly have been before, so that is a possibility.
Issue :all panning including the master will send full signal to hard Right (no sound in left speaker, headphones or mains), center is strong, but when any of the tracks are panned hard Left, this includes the master as well, signal is centered and sound comes out both the Left and Right speakers, of course at a lowered db.
So, is there anybody out there who knows this issue I am experiencing and can point me in a direction of a solid solution.
Please, help teach me where I am going wrong.
I seriously love REAPER. I left PT for a myriad of reasons, besides the ongoing cost.
Thank you sincerely,
Lee.
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12-04-2021, 07:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zadyical
HI to all those who are reading and helping, people like me can't do this without you.
So, it appears I have a similar problem however I believe that my issue is within REAPER as I have checked my hardware which is a Behringer XR18 (however I am sick of it in too many ways), nevertheless I am pretty certain it is within the DAW. I could be wrong, I certainly have been before, so that is a possibility.
Issue :all panning including the master will send full signal to hard Right (no sound in left speaker, headphones or mains), center is strong, but when any of the tracks are panned hard Left, this includes the master as well, signal is centered and sound comes out both the Left and Right speakers, of course at a lowered db.
So, is there anybody out there who knows this issue I am experiencing and can point me in a direction of a solid solution.
Please, help teach me where I am going wrong.
I seriously love REAPER. I left PT for a myriad of reasons, besides the ongoing cost.
Thank you sincerely,
Lee.
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I’m experiencing this exact thing with a scarlett 18i20. I saw another thread that said something about removing any potential mono-only FX on a channel you want to hard pan? But I haven’t had any luck barking up that tree either.
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12-05-2021, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertP
Tip ... maybe: I believe in mix control you can save your configuration once you got it right.
Also, there is a factory default button which I have found very useful in these situations as the default seems to work on my system without any adjustments to suit.
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I agree totally. After installing the driver and software for my Focusrite 8i6 I didn't touch the Focusrite settings whatsoever and everything works perfectly in Reaper.
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