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11-25-2020, 10:44 AM
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How to achieve a delay effect?
What I want is a delay that only repeats the end of a (vocal) phrase; for example if the lyric goes, "Twinkle twinkle little star", I just want the "star" to echo, the rest to be dry. Easy enough once, but through the whole song?
Short of doing an envelope that turns the delay on and off all the time, is there a gate/sidechain solution? Not sure if I'm talking about delay ducking or not.
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11-25-2020, 11:21 AM
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Have you tried side chaining ReaGate on the delay track, and inverting the gate so that when the side chain is silent the gate is open. And the side chain then comes from the vocal track. So you send the vocals twice to the delay track, on channels 1/2 and 3/4.
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11-25-2020, 11:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bolgwrad
What I want is a delay that only repeats the end of a (vocal) phrase; for example if the lyric goes, "Twinkle twinkle little star", I just want the "star" to echo, the rest to be dry. Easy enough once, but through the whole song?
Short of doing an envelope that turns the delay on and off all the time, is there a gate/sidechain solution? Not sure if I'm talking about delay ducking or not.
Thanks.
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If realtime is not needed you can use automation to achieve this.
page 327 of Reaper manual.
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11-25-2020, 12:05 PM
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I wouldn't use mute automation to do delays, better to automate the send volume instead. Historically they are called "delay throws"
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11-25-2020, 12:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabian
Have you tried side chaining ReaGate on the delay track, and inverting the gate so that when the side chain is silent the gate is open. And the side chain then comes from the vocal track. So you send the vocals twice to the delay track, on channels 1/2 and 3/4.
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Yeah, that's what I'm doing right now but it's a bit inconsistent depending on the vocal transients opening the gate.
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11-25-2020, 12:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepe44
If realtime is not needed you can use automation to achieve this.
page 327 of Reaper manual.
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RTFM, of course
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11-25-2020, 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by valy
I wouldn't use mute automation to do delays, better to automate the send volume instead. Historically they are called "delay throws"
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Love it. It seems to be a matter of automating the send button on/off in an automation lane. Cheers.
Last edited by bolgwrad; 11-25-2020 at 06:30 PM.
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11-25-2020, 12:40 PM
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I wouldn't make it more complicated than it needs to be : ) Leave the delay return up at the right level and automate the vocal send to the delay so that it's down except when you want it, and ramp it up for that last word and then back down. Muting on and off will make for a mix that sounds like someone is hitting a mute button on and off
Create a send to the delay by dragging from the track output on the vocal to the track input of the delay. Hit the trim button on the vocal. It opens a window showing all the available parameters for automation, which are unchecked until you check them. Check the send to the delay, on the left of this window and close window. Then you'll have the volume of the send below the voc track and you can drag it up and down to suit.
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11-25-2020, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bolgwrad
RTFM, of course
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I have no ideia of the knowledge you have about Reaper. That being said the Manual is always a good place to start.
If you know how to setup a bus for the delay it´s a matter of riding the fader to the send either using your mouse or a hardware controler with faders.
Even writing the automation on its proper lane ( thats what i do most of the times).
I can advise to treat the vocal or any other instrument before sending to the delay bus.Using eq, compression and most important vocal level automation through out the track will make huge difference on the final result.
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11-25-2020, 02:55 PM
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as a alternative split the last word of your track,then put a delay on it(the clip)
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11-25-2020, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave 2099
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Of course Kenny was bound to have the info, though I didn't know they were called delay throws
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11-25-2020, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bolgwrad
Of course Kenny was bound to have the info, though I didn't know they were called delay throws
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