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06-28-2021, 07:24 PM
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v6.30rc8 - June 28 2021
v6.30rc8 - June 28 2021
- * Includes feature branch: render normalization
- * Includes feature branch: EEL2 x86_64/SSE
- * Includes feature branch: VST3 bridging
- + FX: improve AU:/VST: prefix removal for shortened FX names [t=255061]
- # JSFX: still more loudness meter display tweaks
- # Render: draw current render position in peaks display
This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.
Changelog - Pre-Releases
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06-28-2021, 11:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt_t
# Render: draw current render position in peaks display
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This works very nicely, thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt_t
[*]# JSFX: still more loudness meter display tweaks
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To avoid overlap maybe it makes sense to limit the number of displayed digits (when embedded)?
Last edited by Phazma; 06-28-2021 at 11:55 PM.
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06-29-2021, 01:11 AM
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Quote:
- # JSFX: still more loudness meter display tweaks
- # Render: draw current render position in peaks display
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Nice!
I like the new stereo indicator on the JSFX.
Almost there!
Meter labels overlap when Y scaling is low
Help button hidden at min size to avoid overlapping
Overlapping of help button if settings are displayed:
Overlapping at low height with text size set to high
Thanks for your patience :P
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06-29-2021, 02:18 AM
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# Render: draw current render position in peaks display
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phazma
This works very nicely, thanks
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I second that!
Thank you Cockos.
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06-29-2021, 03:59 AM
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Thanks for the feedback!
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Originally Posted by X-Raym
Meter labels overlap when Y scaling is low
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Live with it, I think... it's likely unusual to have that much focus on loudness below -48dB with a small display size.
Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Raym
Help button hidden at min size to avoid overlapping
Overlapping of help button if settings are displayed
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If the settings are open, the help button is forced to be displayed, otherwise you'd have to change the display size in order to close the settings.
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Originally Posted by X-Raym
Overlapping at low height with text size set to high
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That one we can probably improve.
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06-29-2021, 05:52 AM
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Quote:
- # JSFX: still more loudness meter display tweaks
- # Render: draw current render position in peaks display
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Great to see all the attention to details!
A small thing I notice regarding mono/stereo detection (nice new icon!):
When going from mono to stereo signal, the jsfx UI updates automatically without play-start or user interaction, but not same behavior the other way, when going from ST to M. –isn't really important (to me), and more a matter of consistency.
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06-29-2021, 06:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phazma
To avoid overlap maybe it makes sense to limit the number of displayed digits (when embedded)?
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yeah, maybe ">999"
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06-29-2021, 06:07 AM
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Awesome addition of the loudness features. Thanks!
I just tested the JSFX plugin on the master channel with the EBU test files in the timeline.
Please have a look at the problems I have found. Maybe they can be fixed.
The test files and corresponding documention can be found here:
https://tech.ebu.ch/publications/ebu_loudness_test_set
My results:
3341-1 - passed
3341-2 - passed
3341-3 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-4 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-5 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-6 - failed (surround files)
3341-7 - passed
3341-8 - passed
3341-9 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-11 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-12 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-14 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-15 - passed
3341-16 - passed
3341-17 - passed
3341-18 - passed
3341-19 - passed
3341-20 - passed
3341-21 - passed
3341-22 - passed
3341-23 - passed
3342-1 - passed
3342-2 - passed
3342-3 - passed
3342-4 - passed
I have only tested the live use files for this test case. The file based files should be also tested, but I have not yet done so.
Thank you very much for the loudness integration!
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06-29-2021, 06:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhelixK
yeah, maybe ">999"
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Yeah, I think that would make most sense.
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06-29-2021, 07:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackScreen
EBU test files in the timeline.
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Thanks for taking the time to do this. These are actually all passes. The cases where REAPER displays -3LU compared to the calibration are because of the autodetect mono input setting. Those files (3341-3 for example) are stereo, but the left and right channels are identical, so the REAPER meter thinks that they are mono files playing through the stereo master track and processes only one channel -- note the mono symbol at the bottom right of the meter (maybe that indicator is too subtle). If you disable the mono autodetect setting, REAPER displays the expected values.
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06-29-2021, 07:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Thanks for taking the time to do this. These are actually all passes. The cases where REAPER displays -3LU compared to the calibration are because of the autodetect mono input setting. Those files (3341-3 for example) are stereo, but the left and right channels are identical, so the REAPER meter autodetects that they are mono files on a stereo track and processes only one channel. If you disable the mono autodetect setting, REAPER displays the expected values.
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Ok, perfect. Then I have nothing to criticize on that matter. Thanks for clearing that up!
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06-29-2021, 07:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhelixK
A small thing I notice regarding mono/stereo detection (nice new icon!):
When going from mono to stereo signal, the jsfx UI updates automatically without play-start or user interaction, but not same behavior the other way, when going from ST to M. –isn't really important (to me), and more a matter of consistency.
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This is intentional, the mono autodetect latches off as soon as a multichannel signal is processed. The meter figures, the input is either mono or it isn't.
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06-29-2021, 08:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
This is intentional, the mono autodetect latches off as soon as a multichannel signal is processed. The meter figures, the input is either mono or it isn't.
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ok fine, got it!
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06-29-2021, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Live with it, I think...
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No problem. It still is pretty usable already for sure. Could be enhanced later if really required. :P
But other things require surely more attention now.
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06-29-2021, 11:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackScreen
Awesome addition of the loudness features. Thanks!
I just tested the JSFX plugin on the master channel with the EBU test files in the timeline.
Please have a look at the problems I have found. Maybe they can be fixed.
The test files and corresponding documention can be found here:
https://tech.ebu.ch/publications/ebu_loudness_test_set
My results:
3341-1 - passed
3341-2 - passed
3341-3 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-4 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-5 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-6 - failed (surround files)
3341-7 - passed
3341-8 - passed
3341-9 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-11 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-12 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-14 - failed (3 LU too low)
3341-15 - passed
3341-16 - passed
3341-17 - passed
3341-18 - passed
3341-19 - passed
3341-20 - passed
3341-21 - passed
3341-22 - passed
3341-23 - passed
3342-1 - passed
3342-2 - passed
3342-3 - passed
3342-4 - passed
I have only tested the live use files for this test case. The file based files should be also tested, but I have not yet done so.
Thank you very much for the loudness integration!
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LRA measurement seems to be off. To my understanding LRA depends on STL value which is valid after the first 3 secs. So after 3 secs the first LRA value should be displayed and it should show 0.0 as STL high and STL low are the same. Or I understand something wrong? And it confuses me that IL/STL/ML and LRA values are still updated when the DAW is stopped.
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06-29-2021, 11:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt_t
v6.30rc8 - June 28 2021
[*] + FX: improve AU:/VST: prefix removal for shortened FX names [ t=255061]
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Just a quick heads up.
If FX name has 1 or two letters (i.e. XO (XLN Audio)), in the extended mixer in TCP/MCP, letters in the parenteses aren't hidden as usual.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=241070
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