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10-09-2011, 06:25 PM
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Any TotalMix users?
My Wife has surprised me with a RME Babyface. (Well it's on the way)
She heard me talking about it and thought it would be a great anniversary gift.
Well now that it's on the way I started looking at the TotalMix software in the manual .... looks like quite a learning curve.
I have an Echo Audiofire 4 that I have been using for some time and it is just set it and leave it. Then work from reaper.
Can I do that with TotalMix? Or will I always have to be going back from Reaper to Total mix?
I have no need for exotic routings.... just simple audio tracks.
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10-09-2011, 07:36 PM
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Totalmix will be easy thanks to me ! Set it and forget it or make a couple presets for multiple monitor setups.
http://www.enotes.com/topic/RME#TotalMix
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10-09-2011, 08:10 PM
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Hey thanks Coachz!
Still gives me brain cramps.
When it arrives ...mind if i ask you some questions?
Is the totsl mix with the Babyface a little different?
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10-09-2011, 09:12 PM
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Great resource, Coachz. Reading this makes me realize I've barely scrached the surface with my RME 9652.
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10-09-2011, 09:45 PM
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Use Totalmix everyday.. Been using it since 2005 when I switched from Pro Tools to PC Cubase.. Now Reaper.
I was a bit confused as well.. The layout is a little funny.
But once you get it, It's easy then..
And little things. Like ctrl+click an output channel (mono) or 2 ch's (stereo)
will then allow you to blend (sum) several inputs to mono or stereo output.
Nice when you have 2 or 3 mics on a gtr but you just want to print a mono gtr track.
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10-10-2011, 04:14 AM
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I don't know about the babyface but i'm betting it's virtually the same. Let me know if something in the article is unclear too.
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Originally Posted by riccol
Hey thanks Coachz!
Still gives me brain cramps.
When it arrives ...mind if i ask you some questions?
Is the totsl mix with the Babyface a little different?
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10-10-2011, 05:32 AM
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Totalmix with babyface I read is different.
You get F/X and EQ and Comp I think.. Which is pretty cool. You could setup nice headphone mixes..
You could use the EQ on input also I would think.
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10-10-2011, 06:07 AM
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There is no dynamics (comp) in the TotalMix version for BabyFace.
TotalMix is an extremely powerful tool. Although it is a little daunting to grasp in the beginning, once you get the hang of it setting up a few templates will allow you to "set and forget", if you wish. My bet is that, once you "get it", you will want to put its power to use.
Congratulations on the BabyFace addition. I have been using a FF800 for several years and really like the stability and utility of RME products. The addition of a BabyFace a couple of months ago has solved some portability issues for me, and has been a joy to use.
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10-10-2011, 06:12 AM
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Ok.. I thought I saw it. But guess not.
I did see the EQ and F/X and thought that was cool.
Of course doesn't work with my Digiface so I don't get to play with it.
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10-10-2011, 08:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riccol
My Wife has surprised me with a RME Babyface. (Well it's on the way)
She heard me talking about it and thought it would be a great anniversary gift.
Well now that it's on the way I started looking at the TotalMix software in the manual .... looks like quite a learning curve.
I have an Echo Audiofire 4 that I have been using for some time and it is just set it and leave it. Then work from reaper.
Can I do that with TotalMix? Or will I always have to be going back from Reaper to Total mix?
I have no need for exotic routings.... just simple audio tracks.
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It sounds to me like you simply don't need what TotalMix offers. So in your case, you can just never open Totalmix. In the standard settings it will behave exactly like you are used to with your old interface.
If you do get to a point where you would like to use it (setting up a zero latency monitormix for example), you will find that it's actually pretty easy to do so in TotalMix, easier then most dsp mixers that come with interfaces.
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10-10-2011, 10:30 AM
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Okay...
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Originally Posted by Faderjockey
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Where is this version of totalmix....FF800 user for something like 5 years now...my totalmix is NOTHING like this.
Edit - answered my own question...not going to be supported for legacy products. Wow - the difference between this totalmix and the old one (which we have to use) is night and day. Nothing against the old one..it's powerful, but it's very non-intuitive and you have to dig for things like pan settings, etc. which WILL screw you big time if you mix OTB without paying attention to your pan law both in your DAW and TotalMix as the signal goes back out and into the box.
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10-10-2011, 11:35 AM
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That's because I believe you are stuck with the same version as me.
Only the Babyface and UFX or whatever it's called uses this new Totalmix.
Older interface can't use it.
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10-10-2011, 12:00 PM
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Yaaah Lastrite!
Yep! Just what I was thinking.
tell me more~!
I just want to load track in reaper. Select input. Record and add my little plugins and on and on in Reaper.
I have no need for the exotic routing that will give me major brain cramps.
So you are saying, just install Babyface software, and it should be setup to go?
Oh and what exactly is a zero latency monitor mix?
Feel like I should be in the Newbie forum!!
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10-10-2011, 12:20 PM
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Ok one more question.
since I do not need the most of what TotalMix offers with the exotic routing, the only real benefit of using the RME is the better converters...am I right? And the FX included in Totalmix.
Is the upgrade to the Babyface over my Echo Audiofire 4 enough to warrant making the change?
Maybe I should just send it back.
Yea I know it is subjective ... but opinions appreciated.
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10-10-2011, 12:54 PM
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I don't need to mess with totalmix when working.
When tracking I'm just looking at Reaper. Once in a while since I mix half OTB I may need to make a change.
But like I said earlier.. Once in a while I use Totalmix for summing mics togther when doing gtr's..
Or once in a while when I playback a windows program I need to turn something up that may be turned down.
But most of the time I'm not looking at Totalmix at all.
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10-10-2011, 03:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Faderjockey
That's because I believe you are stuck with the same version as me.
Only the Babyface and UFX or whatever it's called uses this new Totalmix.
Older interface can't use it.
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The new TotalMix for UFX includes dynamics, the TotalMix for BabyFace does not, but is identical in all other respects.
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10-10-2011, 03:45 PM
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Print my article and read it on the toilet. Knowledge is power.
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Originally Posted by riccol
Ok one more question.
since I do not need the most of what TotalMix offers with the exotic routing, the only real benefit of using the RME is the better converters...am I right? And the FX included in Totalmix.
Is the upgrade to the Babyface over my Echo Audiofire 4 enough to warrant making the change?
Maybe I should just send it back.
Yea I know it is subjective ... but opinions appreciated.
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10-10-2011, 04:38 PM
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hey Coachz..... did just that.... and read while soaking in tub.
It does help...of course have to wait to get my hands on the unit.
also downloaded Manual for the Babyface.
there is a difference in the TotalMix with Babyface.
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10-10-2011, 05:17 PM
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Total Mix is very intuitive. Like anything else, it's learning about the options where the curve is. But RME makes it easy.
Also, my HDSP PCI card/Digiface/ADI 8 DS are still working great since 2002. An excellent company if you want reliable gear.
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10-10-2011, 05:31 PM
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Nice. Maybe you will write the adendum for the Babyface ! I hope it helps.
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Originally Posted by riccol
hey Coachz..... did just that.... and read while soaking in tub.
It does help...of course have to wait to get my hands on the unit.
also downloaded Manual for the Babyface.
there is a difference in the TotalMix with Babyface.
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05-13-2012, 06:35 AM
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hey Coachz,
I got a babyface and want to use it to record with reaper.
have never done this type of thing before.
I do not want to use totalmix if I don't need it (I don't think I need it.)
I looked for your article and could not find it. the link does not take me to an article.
I have started a thread asking for help. but then I continued searching past threads and found your posts.
would you please have any thoughts that would help me get going?
thanks alot,
Charlie
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05-13-2012, 06:42 AM
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here's my old post if it helps. feel free to ask more questions after reading that .
http://sunriverstudios.com/totalmix.txt
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05-13-2012, 06:54 AM
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thanks alot Coachz!!!!
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05-13-2012, 11:09 AM
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I went from Emu 1212m and patchmix to rme HDSP 9652 and totalmix.
Very little difference, as both can be a bear if you over-think them.
I now have two scenes set up that I use, first one is for tracking and has sixteen channels set up for inputs and outputs and monitors, with everything else muted but a couple of outputs set up for individual monitor mixes and then the mixdown setup which is all outputs no monitoring.
Once you have set up whatever your preference are, forget it.
and you are going to love the RME converters, etc.
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05-13-2012, 11:38 AM
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and backup your presets
Presets are stored in /documents and settings/"your user name"/local settings/application data/rme totalmix/
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05-13-2012, 01:56 PM
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05-13-2012, 04:58 PM
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thank you all you guys.
you are all awesome.
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07-29-2012, 04:11 PM
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I am trying to figure out totalmix some more.
will anyone please tell me what AS 1/2 is?
I am guessing it is for s/pdif. (I don't use that.)
next, why does the middle row of channels (software playback), have, for the second channel PH 3/4???
PH 3/4 is phones. so how do phones have a software playback??
when I click on the routing destination window at the bottom of the channel, there is an arrow next to AN 1/2 and PH 3/4.
the first software playback channel is AN 1/2. it is routed to AN 1/2 and PH 3/4. really confused at the momment.
also, for the bottom row, hardware output, it says PH 3/4 at the top of the channel. shouldn't it say AN 1/2 also? I have my monitors hooked up to those outputs coming out of the babyface.
also, want to understand the control room fader.
when I alternately click on the control room channel and the hardware output channel PH3/4, the destinations for hardware inputs AN 1 and AN 2 and the software playback channels all smultaneously change from PH 3/4 to AN 1/2.
lastly, how are the faders for control room and hardware outputs related to each other? the block diagram does not specify this?
not pleased with the manual. at all.
any help figuring out this mess greatly appreciated.
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07-29-2012, 04:29 PM
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coachz none of your links seem to work.#
I clicked on the enotes link and got a generic RME page. So I joined enotes and got exactly the same. Your other link gave me a 404.
What gives?
Ivan
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07-29-2012, 04:39 PM
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I'll have to put the total mix article back tomorrow night. Sorry
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07-29-2012, 07:03 PM
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Yeah that's an old video.. Helped me years ago.
I like TotalMix. Still use it. But when I first moved from Mac Pro Tools to PC Cubase and had to deal with TotalMix I was a little lost too..
It's pretty simple. But goes to show the layout can make it worse..
Once I got a handle on that video above years ago it opened up how it works more clearly then the manual ever did.
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07-30-2012, 05:28 AM
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Actually it was this video that helped.. Because he underlines the Submix button that grays out that bottom area.. That opened the door to understanding the routing from that point on.
I don't leave Submix on now that I get it. But that made things click for me that I was over looking or over thinking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwoKo...eature=related
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07-31-2012, 07:13 AM
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thanks very much coachz and Faderjockey.
here's the original post from a thread I just started at rme forum:
ok. after wrangling with this for many hours for the past couple days, I think I have a couple things figured out. finally.
control room, which is labeleled Main at the top of the channel and is outs 3 and 4, is for the headphones (that is to say for output to the headphones).
hardware outputs which is labeled AN 1/2, and is outs 1 and 2, is for my studio monitors.
(what has confused me, is that I assumed that the control room would have the studio monitors.
I failed to take into consideration that the analogue 1 and 2 hardware outputs at the breakout cable coming out of the babyface, are cabled
straight to the studio monitors. if I'm right, finally, I'll just call it a rookie error on my part.)
any comments at all super appreciated.
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07-31-2012, 01:03 PM
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doing better............
I think the big thing for me at the stage that I'm at, is to understand the deal with the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4.
I am unable to get a clear understanding of the labeling rme uses on totalmix.
control room and main in particular are very unclear.
the way I have found to make things work is to step all the way back and say this:
there are inputs and outputs.
edit: the moderator at the rme forum just posted this for me. I did what he said. it worked. I am quite pleased. I am on to my next challenge.
"Click the "Assign" button in Control Room, set AN 1& 2 as Main out, set PH 3 & 4 as Phones 1. That should help make some sense here."
there are tracks and channels.
to route them, you have to route them by the numbers.
no matter what they are labeled, it is only logical that each track or channel could be given a number (from 1 to 4).
now hook them up.
I'm starting very simple. I only have a couple things I'm hooking up here. a microphone. and then 2 speakers (studio monitors). and the headphones.
I'm getting the hang of it. it's taking some work. but I am getting there.
I am actually quite good with electrical schematics and sequences of operation and such with machines.
this recording routing thing should be right up my alley.
a huge thing for me is understanding that for outputs, 1 and 2 means my speakers (studio monitors) that I have hooked up to the babyface xlr outputs.
and that for outputs 3 and 4, that means my headphones.
for hardware inputs, I only have 1 input (with a possiblility for 1 more analogue....................I am not interested in digital inputs for now).
for software inputs, I only have whats on my daw.
see, I'm getting there.
Last edited by chas51; 07-31-2012 at 05:26 PM.
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