Old 01-16-2014, 06:40 PM   #1
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What are current leveling practises of professional releases(for broadcast) vs "masterd for the internets" or relative to anologue (the good ole days)

Anouther way to ask the same question..
What kind of headroom_dyn range would you like to receive from clients?
does every Mixer "master" their own mixes now? Every song have 6db of active range?
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:31 PM   #2
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download a LUFS meter. (Melda has one that is donation ware. TB has one you can demo.)

read this. http://techblog.studio-compyfox.de/m...-System_v2.pdf
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:58 PM   #3
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Im more interested in target ranges, levels (ie I send you a mix at -0.1 how are you going to boost 3db @ 60hz )
read the link. How are you going to hit your Loudness target if you don't even have a meter?

it's 2014, all the hep cats are measuring their Loudness.
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:42 PM   #4
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Default heres Mr Katz explaining the situation in exhaustive detail

heres Mr Katz explaining the situation in exhaustive detail


http://www.digido.com/articles-and-d...es-part-1.html
http://www.digido.com/how-to-make-be...gs-part-2.html

recomended reference mixes
http://www.digido.com/media/honor-roll.html


(he expressly invites linking to his site
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:32 PM   #5
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You need a meter to determine your loudness.

Broadcasters in these parts call for -24 RMS and -10peak for Television deliverables in Stereo...deviate from there and they reject mixes. If you have digital radio where you are, chances are it's pretty close to that as well.

as far as a target, shoot for EBU-R128 or ATSC-A/85, depending on which side of the pond you're on. and the ITU BS.1770 parameters are the ones to go by.

Once you have that established, THEN go for K-Metering.

We all have to get on board with this (it's a good thing, trust me), especially as we move forward into 4k TV with an audio capability of 22.2 channels...full 5.1 isn't that far off, end to end, everybody...be prepared!!! LtRt fold-downs are gonna go away...
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Old 01-27-2014, 04:29 PM   #6
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Please spell it out clear for me?
So if I want to get my music played on Radio do I need to run a -24 RMS disc off and send them that before they consider playing it?

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Old 01-28-2014, 09:57 AM   #7
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Default oh boy...

not quite. I was just suggesting that everybody get onboard with loudness monitoring. let your engineer/producer people worry about technical standards and specs and you get on with making good music.

Radio will always play what they think/know is popular to/for/with their listeners. (so don't make music for the radio, make music for people who are/will be your fans and request to hear your music on the radio...).
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Thanks for that audioguy_on_ca

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Old 01-28-2014, 12:52 PM   #9
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As I understand it from Ian Shepherd, radio and TV sets their loudness to -23LUFS and it doesn't matter what WE master our music to, the radio will KEEP IT at -23LUFS. In my mind the question becomes, "How good will your music mastered at -10LUFS sound at -23LUFS?"
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That site looks interesting on it's own Jeff I will for one will look at it with great interest.
Thank you for the link.

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Old 01-28-2014, 03:30 PM   #11
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That site looks interesting on it's own Jeff I will for one will look at it with great interest.
Thank you for the link.

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http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevemaitland
No problem, Grinder. Ian is THE guy that is single handedly taking on the loudness war. He has MANY articles and vids there on the subject as well as many more topics. I also subscribe to his newsletter. VERY knowledgeable and helpful dude!
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