Old 06-24-2014, 05:03 AM   #1
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I am starting a recording project to do 6 songs by the Police and really try and sound as much as possible like them, kind of the same idea as the Led Zep project...links in my signature. The songs I've chosen are De Do Do Do De Da Da Da, Don't Stand So Close To Me, King of Pain, Murder By Numbers, So Lonely & Synchronicity II.

I wanted to start the discussion on getting the right drum sounds for the songs I've chosen to do. I luckily have the same fantastic drummer as the Led Zeppelin project working on it so the drummer and drums will be right so we don't have to worry about that...just the recording side of things. Jorg is a wonderful drummer and has a really large collection of drums to choose from and knows how to tune them also and will do his homework. Any hints on getting the drum sounds right for these tunes????

Later on I will move my discussion to the other instruments...I've already purchased a Deluxe Electric Mistress and have a Fulltone Tube Tape Echo and a Dynacomp so the guitar sounds are coming along already but for now I'm just focusing on drums.
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Old 06-24-2014, 05:08 AM   #2
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There are numerous resources around the net regarding stewart's amazing drum sound.

From what i remember, it is mostly very close mic'ed and completely went against the grain as far as mainstream rock bands of the time were concerned.

Its like a reggae kit with the power of rock ... Without any of that room sound

Also occasionally theres weird dub style echo on the hats and maybe toms in some songs etc but im note sure if there is any of that in the songs you chose..
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:04 AM   #3
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- Go to the local liquor store
- Stick your finger under your shirt so that it looks like a gun.
- Ask them to give you all their money
- Swiftly leave the store
- Get in car, drive away really fast
- Hold handheld recorder out the window (with windscreen of course) recording as long as you can.

That should sound pretty authentic.

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Old 06-24-2014, 08:40 AM   #4
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Jamstix has a dwummer called Stewart who/that does an impression of Copeland.

"Stewart - This dwummer is characterized by complex hihat work, snare flams and syncopated kicks. He also has various unique fill patterns. Fully utilizing his groove and accent habits will greatly
affect the underlying style and can yield very interesting results. This drummer also defaults to a 'driving' groove feel that is slightly ahead of the beat, which can of course be adjusted to taste."


Might not be worth it just for a few twacks.

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PS Just read you want a real dwummer. So sorry.
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Old 06-24-2014, 11:00 AM   #5
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Copeland is great, but a lot of people think he's faster than he really is. Copeland has done a lot of double tracking to his drum parts to get them to sound that way (he's said so himself in interviews). This should help your drummer to not loose his mind trying to recreate these parts in 1 pass.
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Old 06-24-2014, 12:46 PM   #6
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Two articles for you:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar0...ssictracks.htm

http://soundhow.com/317/the-police-synchronicity/
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Old 06-24-2014, 01:07 PM   #7
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Everytime I listen to De Do Do Do De Da Da Da, to me the snare seems too loud for me and is piercing on certain speakers.
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Old 06-24-2014, 01:44 PM   #8
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As said earlier, tight mic on most drums. The other elements are:

1) Small diameter drums. No big Bonzo kit.
2) Higher tuning. This was the 80's, and everything was pitched up a little.

Stewart's signature splash was a cut-down highhat.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:33 PM   #9
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I always thought the police sounded like they just ripped of Steel Pulse :-).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XXpQFyP7RA
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Thanks for all the comments so far...I appreciate any help or specifics of anything you guys have got.
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:49 AM   #11
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memorize these words:

"let me see your hands"

"get on the ground, face down"

"you have the right to remain silient, ...whatever you say can and will be used against you in a court of law...etc. etc"
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:27 PM   #12
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...I've held back....as long as I can.....

...so...

Depends where you are.

In Britain, you can go "neee naaaa neee naaaa", or "'Ello 'ello 'ello. What's all this 'ere then?"


Tired after sorting the punctuation, so I bow out now...........
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:47 PM   #13
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...I've held back....as long as I can.....

...so...

Depends where you are.

In Britain, you can go "neee naaaa neee naaaa", or "'Ello 'ello 'ello. What's all this 'ere then?"


Tired after sorting the punctuation, so I bow out now...........
LOL, I couldn't help myself either.
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Old 06-25-2014, 03:10 PM   #14
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This was done at Strawberry North way back then. Drummer was Paul Burgess - 10cc, The Hellecasters, and more recently operating as rear gunner for Jethro Tull.



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Stuff a couple of powdered donuts in your cheeks and say oink...

Sorry...
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:11 PM   #16
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- Go to the local liquor store
- Stick your finger under your shirt so that it looks like a gun.
- Ask them to give you all their money
- Swiftly leave the store
- Get in car, drive away really fast
- Hold handheld recorder out the window (with windscreen of course) recording as long as you can.

That should sound pretty authentic.

Or just look at someone and say, with a southern drawl...

"You in a heap a' trouble boy."
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:07 PM   #17
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I always thought the police sounded like they just ripped of Steel Pulse :-).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XXpQFyP7RA
Nice link Ramses - oh those innocent times
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