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07-11-2019, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
We just want to "Undo" or "Send Home" the Widgets described in the Sends Zone.
With the concept of Zone stacks we could "Undo", but it's a mess in reality, as we have discovered.
So about the best compromise is to provide a way to "Send Home" the Widgets we took over in a particular Zone.
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Ok, I think I'm starting to see the light.
In a similar scenario, say I've used OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets and splayed FX parameters across C4 A1-D8.
Now I use ToggleMapSends to splay sends 1-8 on C4 D1-8, replacing that row of FX parameters.
Now that ToggleMapSends won't bring back the overwritten FX parameters in C4 D1-8, can I simply re-focus the FX and have it overwrite the Sends on D1-D8 and be back to where I started?
Last edited by MixMonkey; 07-11-2019 at 07:15 AM.
Reason: read Geoff's last post more closely :)
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07-11-2019, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MixMonkey
Ok, I think I'm starting to see the light.
In a similar scenario, say I've used OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets and splayed FX parameters across C4 A1-D8.
Now I use ToggleMapSends to splay sends 1-8 on C4 D1-8, replacing that row of FX parameters.
Now that ToggleMapSends won't bring back the overwritten FX parameters in C4 D1-8, can I simply re-focus the FX and have it overwrite the Sends on D1-D8 and be back to where I started?
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Exactly.
That is why the stack approach is so seductive, it would allow you to "Uncover" D1-D8, instead of having to remap D1-D8.
Now that you see the compromise, do you think it's OK?
It's a bit constraining, but would allow going from any arbitrary Zone to another, with the caveat that the Zone "Stack" (such as it is) would only ever be 2 levels max -- Home and the current Zone(s) that overlay Home.
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07-11-2019, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Exactly.
That is why the stack approach is so seductive, it would allow you to "Uncover" D1-D8, instead of having to remap D1-D8.
Now that you see the compromise, do you think it's OK?
It's a bit constraining, but would allow going from any arbitrary Zone to another, with the caveat that the Zone "Stack" (such as it is) would only ever be 2 levels max -- Home and the current Zone(s) that overlay Home.
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I think this will be fine
In reality, what's the difference, in my example, between activating ToggleMapSends a second time to return to the overwritten FX parameters and re-focussing the FX and activating them that way?
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07-11-2019, 09:01 AM
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I think this will be fine
In reality, what's the difference, in my example, between activating ToggleMapSends a second time to return to the overwritten FX parameters and re-focussing the FX and activating them that way?
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Yup, you're right
OK, so we only need GoZone, and the implicit GoZones activated by FXFocus, TrackSelection, etc.
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07-11-2019, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
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Yup, you're right
OK, so we only need GoZone, and the implicit GoZones activated by FXFocus, TrackSelection, etc.
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...and the zone creator is responsible for resetting/blanking unused widgets as they see fit.
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07-11-2019, 02:18 PM
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...and the zone creator is responsible for resetting/blanking unused widgets as they see fit.
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Yes, agree.
Because of all this we can now also support multiple instances of an FX on a Track.
So we will now introduce FXNavigator.
Let's say we have a Track with 2 ReaEQ's.
Navigation wise, it's a no brainer on the Console1 -- just use a bank like concept to navigate between FX instances.
The C4 is much more free form.
So the real question for you C4 users out there is:
If you map multiple FX would you like to see both ReaEQ's each taking up a row, or do you tend to map the EQ's to A1-A8, the Compressors to B1-B8, etc. in your workflow ?
If everyone maps to a location on the C4 -- e.g. always puts the EQ's at the top -- then it is the same as the Console1, and we can probably go with just that mode of navigation.
If not, we'll have to think a bit more...
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07-11-2019, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
So the real question for you C4 users out there is:
If you map multiple FX would you like to see both ReaEQ's each taking up a row, or do you tend to map the EQ's to A1-A8, the Compressors to B1-B8, etc. in your workflow ?
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My workflow at the moment relies on all the FX being independent and mapping to the C4 individually.
Whilst it's a great idea to have multiple FX appear at the same time on the C4, the diversity of plugin parameter arrangements and the number of ways individual plugins can be combined is going to make this very difficult.
Unless you stick absolutely rigidly to a fixed layout, it won't work, and if you stick to a fixed layout, there are always going to be plugins that 'won't fit'.
You can't really know in advance what plugins will be combined on a track, so you can't plan the mapping to avoid collisions.
I think this is the reason that you created OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets, and it works really well
As a compromise, we could use MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets to map all the FX on a track to the C4, if this could be activated with a button instead of track selection (so that you could choose to either see the FX individually with OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets or all together with MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets, track by track)
We could then make custom FX zone maps for the 'all fx' case, avoiding collisions and call them all at once using a Reaper FX chain. They wouldn't interfere with the 'individual FX' case because you can rename the FX used in the Chain and have them call the custom map with the same Zone name.
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07-11-2019, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MixMonkey
My workflow at the moment relies on all the FX being independent and mapping to the C4 individually.
Whilst it's a great idea to have multiple FX appear at the same time on the C4, the diversity of plugin parameter arrangements and the number of ways individual plugins can be combined is going to make this very difficult.
Unless you stick absolutley rigidly to a fixed layout, it won't work, and if you stick to a fixed layout, there are always going to be plugins that 'won't fit'.
You can't really know in advance what plugins will be combined on a track, so you can't plan the mapping to avoid collisions.
I think this is the reason that you created OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets, and it works really well
As a compromise, we could use MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets to map all the FX on a track to the C4, if this could be activated with a button instead of track selection (so that you could choose to either see the FX individually with OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets or all together with MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets, track by track)
We could then make custom FX zone maps for the 'all fx' case, avoiding collisions and call them all at once using a Reaper FX chain. They wouldn't interfere with the 'individual FX' case because you can rename the FX used in the Chain and have them call the custom map with the same Zone name.
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Cool, thanks, lots of great info in there to help drive the design !
You should be able to use a button for MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets right now:
Code:
someButton MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets
although this lacks the Track by Track part of the feature you request.
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07-11-2019, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
You should be able to use a button for MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets right now:
Code:
someButton MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets
although this lacks the Track by Track part of the feature you request.
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If I put it in the C4.zon with OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets, will it cause problems?
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07-11-2019, 04:55 PM
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If I put it in the C4.zon with OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets, will it cause problems?
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I don't think so, give it a shot
[Edit]: Hmmm... on second thought, because of all that Zone Stack junk in the version you have things will likely foul up.
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07-11-2019, 06:17 PM
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hey MixMonkey, here is the C4.mst file. I have looked for duplicates, didn't see any. Let me know if you find anything? thanks again.
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07-11-2019, 06:45 PM
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I don't think so, give it a shot
[Edit]: Hmmm... on second thought, because of all that Zone Stack junk in the version you have things will likely foul up.
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It does go a bit screwy But if it can be made to play nice with the focussed FX activator, the idea will work:
I made a simple channel strip, ReaStrip, with ReaComp and ReaEQ
ReaComp.zon:
Code:
Zone "ReaStripComp"
SelectedTrackNavigator
DisplayUpperD5 FXParamNameDisplay "Thresh" "Thresh"
DisplayLowerD5 FXParamValueDisplay "Thresh"
RotaryD5 FXParam "Thresh"
Toggle+RotaryPushD5 NoAction
DisplayUpperD6 FXParamNameDisplay "Ratio" "Ratio"
DisplayLowerD6 FXParamValueDisplay "Ratio"
RotaryD6 FXParam "Ratio"
Toggle+RotaryPushD6 NoAction
DisplayUpperD7 FXParamNameDisplay "Attack" "Att"
DisplayLowerD7 FXParamValueDisplay "Attack"
RotaryD7 FXParam "Attack"
Toggle+RotaryPushD7 NoAction
DisplayUpperD8 FXParamNameDisplay "Release" "Rel"
DisplayLowerD8 FXParamValueDisplay "Release"
RotaryD8 FXParam "Release"
Toggle+RotaryPushD8 FXParam "AutoRel"
DisplayUpperC5 FXParamNameDisplay "Hipass" "SC_HPF"
DisplayLowerC5 FXParamValueDisplay "Hipass"
RotaryC5 FXParam "Hipass"
Toggle+RotaryPushC5 NoAction
DisplayUpperC6 FXParamNameDisplay "Lowpass" "SC_LPF"
DisplayLowerC6 FXParamValueDisplay "Lowpass"
RotaryC6 FXParam "Lowpass"
Toggle+RotaryPushC6 NoAction
DisplayUpperC7 FXParamNameDisplay "Knee" "Knee"
DisplayLowerC7 FXParamValueDisplay "Knee"
RotaryC7 FXParam "Knee"
Toggle+RotaryPushC7 NoAction
DisplayUpperC8 FXParamNameDisplay "RMS size" "RMS"
DisplayLowerC8 FXParamValueDisplay "RMS size"
RotaryC8 FXParam "RMS size"
Toggle+RotaryPushC8 NoAction
ZoneEnd
ReaEQ:
Code:
Zone "ReaStripEQ"
SelectedTrackNavigator
DisplayUpperD1 FXParamNameDisplay "Gain-Low Shelf" "Gain"
DisplayLowerD1 FXParamValueDisplay "Gain-Low Shelf"
RotaryD1 FXParam "Gain-Low Shelf"
Toggle+RotaryPushD1 NoAction
DisplayUpperD2 FXParamNameDisplay "Gain-Band 2" "Gain"
DisplayLowerD2 FXParamValueDisplay "Gain-Band 2"
RotaryD2 FXParam "Gain-Band 2"
Toggle+RotaryPushD2 NoAction
DisplayUpperD3 FXParamNameDisplay "Gain-Band 3" "Gain"
DisplayLowerD3 FXParamValueDisplay "Gain-Band 3"
RotaryD3 FXParam "Gain-Band 3"
Toggle+RotaryPushD3 NoAction
DisplayUpperD4 FXParamNameDisplay "Gain-High Shelf" "Gain"
DisplayLowerD4 FXParamValueDisplay "Gain-High Shelf"
RotaryD4 FXParam "Gain-High Shelf"
Toggle+RotaryPushD4 NoAction
DisplayUpperC1 FXParamNameDisplay "Freq-Low Shelf" "LF"
DisplayLowerC1 FXParamValueDisplay "Freq-Low Shelf"
RotaryC1 FXParam "Freq-Low Shelf"
Toggle+RotaryPushC1 NoAction
DisplayUpperC2 FXParamNameDisplay "Freq-Band 2" "LMF"
DisplayLowerC2 FXParamValueDisplay "Freq-Band 2"
RotaryC2 FXParam "Freq-Band 2"
Toggle+RotaryPushC2 NoAction
DisplayUpperC3 FXParamNameDisplay "Freq-Band 3" "HMF"
DisplayLowerC3 FXParamValueDisplay "Freq-Band 3"
RotaryC3 FXParam "Freq-Band 3"
Toggle+RotaryPushC3 NoAction
DisplayUpperC4 FXParamNameDisplay "Freq-High Shelf" "HF"
DisplayLowerC4 FXParamValueDisplay "Freq-High Shelf"
RotaryC4 FXParam "Freq-High Shelf"
Toggle+RotaryPushC4 NoAction
DisplayUpperB1 FXParamNameDisplay "Q-Low Shelf" "Q"
DisplayLowerB1 FXParamValueDisplay "Q-Low Shelf"
RotaryB1 FXParam "Q-Low Shelf"
Toggle+RotaryPushB1 NoAction
DisplayUpperB2 FXParamNameDisplay "Q-Band 2" "Q"
DisplayLowerB2 FXParamValueDisplay "Q-Band 2"
RotaryB2 FXParam "Q-Band 2"
Toggle+RotaryPushB2 NoAction
DisplayUpperB3 FXParamNameDisplay "Q-Band 3" "Q"
DisplayLowerB3 FXParamValueDisplay "Q-Band 3"
RotaryB3 FXParam "Q-Band 3"
Toggle+RotaryPushB3 NoAction
DisplayUpperB4 FXParamNameDisplay "Q-High Shelf" "Q"
DisplayLowerB4 FXParamValueDisplay "Q-High Shelf"
RotaryB4 FXParam "Q-High Shelf"
Toggle+RotaryPushB4 NoAction
ZoneEnd
My C4.zon:
Code:
Zone Home
OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets
Lock MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets
SpotErase ToggleMapSends
SlotUp Reaper _fba48393e4ca48f88d11cba0e4671ab3
SlotDown Reaper _265b374bdcd740f7af4550cd986e4e9c
TrackL Reaper _S&M_WNONLY1
TrackR Reaper _S&M_WNONLY2
Split Reaper _S&M_WNCLS3
BankLeft TrackBank -24
BankRight TrackBank 24
ChannelLeft TrackBank -1
ChannelRight TrackBank 1
ZoneEnd
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Zone Send|1-8
DisplayUpperD| TrackSendNameDisplay
DisplayLowerD| TrackSendVolumeDisplay
RotaryPushD| TrackSendMute
RotaryD| TrackSendVolume
ZoneEnd
I made a Reaper FX Chain with ReaComp and ReaEQ and saved it as ReaStrip.
In the FX chain, ReaEQ is re-named to ReaStripEQ and ReaComp is re-named to ReaStripComp to distinguish them from the .zon files that already exist for those plugins.
Open the chain, select the track and push Lock on the C4 and all the parameters appear on the C4
If you focus one of the plugins, OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets kicks in and just the focussed plugin's parameters appear. Press Lock again and they both come back.
Only slightly weird thing is Lock also causes the open FX windows to close, so I had to put _S&M_WNTGL5 on a button to reopen them. The trick is getting the FX windows open without the focus triggering the other activator
It all falls apart when you change tracks though
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07-11-2019, 06:46 PM
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hey MixMonkey, here is the C4.mst file. I have looked for duplicates, didn't see any. Let me know if you find anything? thanks again.
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I swapped this one with mine and it works fine as well. Hardware ok? MIDI connections etc
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07-11-2019, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Yes, agree.
Because of all this we can now also support multiple instances of an FX on a Track.
So we will now introduce FXNavigator.
Let's say we have a Track with 2 ReaEQ's.
Navigation wise, it's a no brainer on the Console1 -- just use a bank like concept to navigate between FX instances.
The C4 is much more free form.
So the real question for you C4 users out there is:
If you map multiple FX would you like to see both ReaEQ's each taking up a row, or do you tend to map the EQ's to A1-A8, the Compressors to B1-B8, etc. in your workflow ?
If everyone maps to a location on the C4 -- e.g. always puts the EQ's at the top -- then it is the same as the Console1, and we can probably go with just that mode of navigation.
If not, we'll have to think a bit more...
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I have to admit, I have been lost about all the zone, subzone, gozone, nozone talk and can't really grasp all of it, sorry I can't contribute.
But, with C4 mapping I share mixmonkey's workflow, well a lot of it. Mainly that mapping by focused fx is preferred for all of those reasons. I remember when that was added, it was and still is amazing to use vs. cramming as many controls as you can.
If I used the same plugs all the time every time, trackfocused widgets would probably be way better in every way. It would work like a console, that's pretty cool actually. I guess I could have a "console" page and setup a recording template with this in mind...thinking out loud now.
Therefore, if it was possible to choose either, like I think we still do, then both styles win! CSI ftw
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07-12-2019, 12:09 AM
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In the FX redesign, could WE (I use the term very loosely) not have
1. a FX splays over the C4 and have scroll function for more knobs, using two buttons. (weather that be shift+slot or whatever)
Is that possible? How would we code the FX?
Or maybe
2. a second nested Zone for the rest of the FX be a better way.
So you could keep some knobs from Zone 1 live on A1-B8 and have C1-D8 over write with a button press. staying true to the new concept, a second button press would take it back to the Home Zone for that FX.
To change to the next FX slot on we use the slot up and down.
I'm looking at the C4 here, and really there are Slot UP, Slot Down, CH L, CH R, even the BANK L/R and SINGLE L/R could be utilised if needed (as they are really just duplicates).
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07-12-2019, 04:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
In the FX redesign, could WE (I use the term very loosely) not have
1. a FX splays over the C4 and have scroll function for more knobs, using two buttons. (weather that be shift+slot or whatever)
Is that possible? How would we code the FX?
Or maybe
2. a second nested Zone for the rest of the FX be a better way.
So you could keep some knobs from Zone 1 live on A1-B8 and have C1-D8 over write with a button press. staying true to the new concept, a second button press would take it back to the Home Zone for that FX.
To change to the next FX slot on we use the slot up and down.
I'm looking at the C4 here, and really there are Slot UP, Slot Down, CH L, CH R, even the BANK L/R and SINGLE L/R could be utilised if needed (as they are really just duplicates).
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All good points !!
Thanks for input on the new FX design !!
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07-12-2019, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by poetnprophet
I have to admit, I have been lost about all the zone, subzone, gozone, nozone talk and can't really grasp all of it, sorry I can't contribute.
But, with C4 mapping I share mixmonkey's workflow, well a lot of it. Mainly that mapping by focused fx is preferred for all of those reasons. I remember when that was added, it was and still is amazing to use vs. cramming as many controls as you can.
If I used the same plugs all the time every time, trackfocused widgets would probably be way better in every way. It would work like a console, that's pretty cool actually. I guess I could have a "console" page and setup a recording template with this in mind...thinking out loud now.
Therefore, if it was possible to choose either, like I think we still do, then both styles win! CSI ftw
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Looks like we're doing both
Thanks for inout on the new FX design !!
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07-12-2019, 04:58 AM
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I'd agree with the mapping FX dependent on slot selection, I do recall the old setup being very long winded when you had a big FX and where trying to scroll down to the next FX,
If scrolling or a button second page type thing was only per FX and slot up and down dictated which FX was splayed I personal think that would be much easier to navigate.
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07-12-2019, 05:49 AM
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If scrolling or a button second page type thing was only per FX and slot up and down dictated which FX was splayed I personal think that would be much easier to navigate.
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That's how it is at the moment
You're not restricted to a single zone per fx. Here's the (rather large and comprehensive) Sonnox Dynamics spread over two zones, here's the first zone (the two zones are all part of the same file, but it's too big to post as text)
Code:
Zone "VST3: Oxford Dynamics (Sonnox)"
FocusedFXTrackNavigator
Marker GoZone "VST3: Oxford Dynamics (Sonnox)"
ChanStrip GoZone "Oxford Dynamics_1"
DisplayUpperD1 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Threshold" "CThrsh"
DisplayLowerD1 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Threshold"
RotaryD1 FXParam "Comp Threshold"
Toggle+RotaryPushD1 FXParam "Compressor In"
DisplayUpperD2 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Ratio" "Ratio"
DisplayLowerD2 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Ratio"
RotaryD2 FXParam "Comp Ratio"
Toggle+RotaryPushD2 NoAction
DisplayUpperD3 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Attack" "Att"
DisplayLowerD3 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Attack"
RotaryD3 FXParam "Comp Attack"
Toggle+RotaryPushD3 NoAction
DisplayUpperD4 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Hold" "Hold"
DisplayLowerD4 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Hold"
RotaryD4 FXParam "Comp Hold"
Toggle+RotaryPushD4 NoAction
DisplayUpperD5 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Release" "Rel"
DisplayLowerD5 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Release"
RotaryD5 FXParam "Comp Release"
Toggle+RotaryPushD5 NoAction
DisplayUpperD6 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Soft Knee" "Knee"
DisplayLowerD6 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Soft Knee"
RotaryD6 FXParam "Comp Soft Knee"
Toggle+RotaryPushD6 NoAction
DisplayUpperD7 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Type" "Type"
DisplayLowerD7 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Type"
RotaryD7 FXParam "Comp Type"
Toggle+RotaryPushD7 NoAction
DisplayUpperD8 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Make-Up" "MakeUp"
DisplayLowerD8 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Make-Up"
RotaryD8 FXParam "Comp Make-Up"
Toggle+RotaryPushD8 NoAction
DisplayUpperC1 FXParamNameDisplay "Limit Threshold" "Thresh"
DisplayLowerC1 FXParamValueDisplay "Limit Threshold"
RotaryC1 FXParam "Limit Threshold"
Toggle+RotaryPushC1 FXParam "Limiter In"
DisplayUpperC2 FXParamNameDisplay "Limit Attack" "Att"
DisplayLowerC2 FXParamValueDisplay "Limit Attack"
RotaryC2 FXParam "Limit Attack"
Toggle+RotaryPushC2 NoAction
DisplayUpperC3 FXParamNameDisplay "Limit Hold" "Hold"
DisplayLowerC3 FXParamValueDisplay "Limit Hold"
RotaryC3 FXParam "Limit Hold"
Toggle+RotaryPushC3 NoAction
DisplayUpperC4 FXParamNameDisplay "Limit Release" "Rel"
DisplayLowerC4 FXParamValueDisplay "Limit Release"
RotaryC4 FXParam "Limit Release"
Toggle+RotaryPushC4 NoAction
DisplayUpperC5 FXParamNameDisplay "Low Gain" "Gain"
DisplayLowerC5 FXParamValueDisplay "Low Gain"
RotaryC5 FXParam "Low Gain"
Toggle+RotaryPushC5 NoAction
DisplayUpperC6 FXParamNameDisplay "Input Gain" "Input"
DisplayLowerC6 FXParamValueDisplay "Input Gain"
RotaryC6 FXParam "Input Gain"
Toggle+RotaryPushC6 FXParam "Side Chain Eq In"
DisplayUpperC7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerC7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryC7 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushC7 NoAction
DisplayUpperC8 FXParamNameDisplay "High Gain" "Gain"
DisplayLowerC8 FXParamValueDisplay "High Gain"
RotaryC8 FXParam "High Gain"
Toggle+RotaryPushC8 NoAction
DisplayUpperB1 FXParamNameDisplay "Warmth Amount" "Warmth"
DisplayLowerB1 FXParamValueDisplay "Warmth Amount"
RotaryB1 FXParam "Warmth Amount"
Toggle+RotaryPushB1 FXParam "Warmth In"
DisplayUpperB2 FXParamNameDisplay "Trim"
DisplayLowerB2 FXParamValueDisplay "Trim"
RotaryB2 FXParam "Trim"
Toggle+RotaryPushB2 NoAction
DisplayUpperB3 FXParamNameDisplay "Key Input" "KeyIn"
DisplayLowerB3 FXParamValueDisplay "Key Input"
RotaryB3 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB3 FXParam "Key Input"
DisplayUpperB4 FXParamNameDisplay "Dither Bit Depth" "Dither"
DisplayLowerB4 FXParamValueDisplay "Dither Bit Depth"
RotaryB4 FXParam "Dither Bit Depth"
Toggle+RotaryPushB4 NoAction
DisplayUpperB5 FXParamNameDisplay "Low Frequency" "LF"
DisplayLowerB5 FXParamValueDisplay "Low Frequency"
RotaryB5 FXParam "Low Frequency"
Toggle+RotaryPushB5 FXParam "LF Shelf In"
DisplayUpperB6 FXParamNameDisplay "Low Q" "LFQ"
DisplayLowerB6 FXParamValueDisplay "Low Q"
RotaryB6 FXParam "Low Q"
Toggle+RotaryPushB6 FXParam "EQ Signal"
DisplayUpperB7 FXParamNameDisplay "High Q" "HFQ"
DisplayLowerB7 FXParamValueDisplay "High Q"
RotaryB7 FXParam "High Q"
Toggle+RotaryPushB7 FXParam "EQ Sidechain"
DisplayUpperB8 FXParamNameDisplay "High Frequency" "HF"
DisplayLowerB8 FXParamValueDisplay "High Frequency"
RotaryB8 FXParam "High Frequency"
Toggle+RotaryPushB8 FXParam "HF Shelf In"
DisplayUpperA1 FXParamNameDisplay "Wet" "OxDyn1"
DisplayLowerA1 FXParamValueDisplay "Wet"
RotaryA1 FXParam "Wet"
Toggle+RotaryPushA1 FXParam "Bypass"
DisplayUpperA2 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA2 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA2 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA2 NoAction
DisplayUpperA3 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA3 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA3 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA3 NoAction
DisplayUpperA4 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA4 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA4 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA4 NoAction
DisplayUpperA5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA5 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA5 NoAction
DisplayUpperA6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA6 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA6 NoAction
DisplayUpperA7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA7 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA7 NoAction
DisplayUpperA8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA8 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA8 NoAction
ZoneEnd
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....and the second Zone:
Code:
Zone "Oxford Dynamics_1"
FocusedFXTrackNavigator
DisplayUpperD1 FXParamNameDisplay "Gate Threshold" "GThrsh"
DisplayLowerD1 FXParamValueDisplay "Gate Threshold"
RotaryD1 FXParam "Gate Threshold"
Toggle+RotaryPushD1 FXParam "Gate In"
DisplayUpperD2 FXParamNameDisplay "Gate Attack" "Att"
DisplayLowerD2 FXParamValueDisplay "Gate Attack"
RotaryD2 FXParam "Gate Attack"
Toggle+RotaryPushD2 NoAction
DisplayUpperD3 FXParamNameDisplay "Gate Hold" "Hold"
DisplayLowerD3 FXParamValueDisplay "Gate Hold"
RotaryD3 FXParam "Gate Hold"
Toggle+RotaryPushD3 NoAction
DisplayUpperD4 FXParamNameDisplay "Gate Release" "Rel"
DisplayLowerD4 FXParamValueDisplay "Gate Release"
RotaryD4 FXParam "Gate Release"
Toggle+RotaryPushD4 NoAction
DisplayUpperD5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerD5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryD5 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushD5 NoAction
DisplayUpperD6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerD6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryD6 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushD6 NoAction
DisplayUpperD7 FXParamNameDisplay "Gate Range" "Range"
DisplayLowerD7 FXParamValueDisplay "Gate Range"
RotaryD7 FXParam "Gate Range"
Toggle+RotaryPushD7 NoAction
DisplayUpperD8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerD8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryD8 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushD8 NoAction
DisplayUpperC1 FXParamNameDisplay "ExpThr" "EThrsh"
DisplayLowerC1 FXParamValueDisplay "ExpThr"
RotaryC1 FXParam "ExpThr"
Toggle+RotaryPushC1 FXParam "Expander In"
DisplayUpperC2 FXParamNameDisplay "Expander Attack" "Att"
DisplayLowerC2 FXParamValueDisplay "Expander Attack"
RotaryC2 FXParam "Expander Attack"
Toggle+RotaryPushC2 NoAction
DisplayUpperC3 FXParamNameDisplay "Expander Hold" "Hold"
DisplayLowerC3 FXParamValueDisplay "Expander Hold"
RotaryC3 FXParam "Expander Hold"
Toggle+RotaryPushC3 NoAction
DisplayUpperC4 FXParamNameDisplay "Expander Releas" "Rel"
DisplayLowerC4 FXParamValueDisplay "Expander Releas"
RotaryC4 FXParam "Expander Releas"
Toggle+RotaryPushC4 NoAction
DisplayUpperC5 FXParamNameDisplay "Expander Ratio" "Ratio"
DisplayLowerC5 FXParamValueDisplay "Expander Ratio"
RotaryC5 FXParam "Expander Ratio"
Toggle+RotaryPushC5 NoAction
DisplayUpperC6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerC6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryC6 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushC6 NoAction
DisplayUpperC7 FXParamNameDisplay "Expander Range" "Range"
DisplayLowerC7 FXParamValueDisplay "Expander Range"
RotaryC7 FXParam "Expander Range"
Toggle+RotaryPushC7 NoAction
DisplayUpperC8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerC8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryC8 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushC8 NoAction
DisplayUpperB1 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerB1 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryB1 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB1 NoAction
DisplayUpperB2 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerB2 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryB2 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB2 NoAction
DisplayUpperB3 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerB3 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryB3 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB3 NoAction
DisplayUpperB4 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerB4 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryB4 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB4 NoAction
DisplayUpperB5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerB5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryB5 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB5 NoAction
DisplayUpperB6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerB6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryB6 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB6 NoAction
DisplayUpperB7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerB7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryB7 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB7 NoAction
DisplayUpperB8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerB8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryB8 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB8 NoAction
DisplayUpperA1 FXParamNameDisplay "Wet" "OxDyn2"
DisplayLowerA1 FXParamValueDisplay "Wet"
RotaryA1 FXParam "Wet"
Toggle+RotaryPushA1 FXParam "Bypass"
DisplayUpperA2 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA2 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA2 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA2 NoAction
DisplayUpperA3 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA3 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA3 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA3 NoAction
DisplayUpperA4 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA4 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA4 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA4 NoAction
DisplayUpperA5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA5 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA5 NoAction
DisplayUpperA6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA6 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA6 NoAction
DisplayUpperA7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA7 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA7 NoAction
DisplayUpperA8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA8 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA8 NoAction
ZoneEnd
So when you first focus the FX, you see Compressor, Limiter, Warmth and Side Chain EQ. When you push ChanStrip on the C4 you see Gate and Expander. If you push Marker on the C4 you return to the first Zone (Comp, Lim etc) So you can flip back and forth between them.
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07-12-2019, 06:02 AM
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In my C4.zon:
Code:
Zone Home
OnFXFocus MapFocusedTrackFXToWidgets
/Lock MapSelectedTrackFXToWidgets
SpotErase ToggleMapSends
SlotUp Reaper _fba48393e4ca48f88d11cba0e4671ab3
SlotDown Reaper _265b374bdcd740f7af4550cd986e4e9c
TrackL Reaper _S&M_WNONLY1
TrackR Reaper _S&M_WNONLY2
Split Reaper _S&M_WNCLS3
BankLeft TrackBank -24
BankRight TrackBank 24
ChannelLeft TrackBank -1
ChannelRight TrackBank 1
ZoneEnd
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Zone Send|1-8
DisplayUpperD| TrackSendNameDisplay
DisplayLowerD| TrackSendVolumeDisplay
RotaryPushD| TrackSendMute
RotaryD| TrackSendVolume
ZoneEnd
TrackL and TrackR open the FX window for the next(prev) FX slot on the selected track, and close the previously opened window. This lets you navigate up and down the FX without using point and click (this is CSI after all )
SlotUp and SlotDown do a similar thing but in an open FX chain window, rather than floating windows. I'm trying both out at the moment to see which I use most.
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07-12-2019, 06:05 AM
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Quote:
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That's how it is at the moment
You're not restricted to a single zone per fx. Here's the (rather large and comprehensive) Sonnox Dynamics spread over two zones, here's the first zone (the two zones are all part of the same file, but it's too big to post as text)
Code:
Zone "VST3: Oxford Dynamics (Sonnox)"
FocusedFXTrackNavigator
Marker GoZone "VST3: Oxford Dynamics (Sonnox)"
ChanStrip GoZone "Oxford Dynamics_1"
DisplayUpperD1 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Threshold" "CThrsh"
DisplayLowerD1 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Threshold"
RotaryD1 FXParam "Comp Threshold"
Toggle+RotaryPushD1 FXParam "Compressor In"
DisplayUpperD2 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Ratio" "Ratio"
DisplayLowerD2 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Ratio"
RotaryD2 FXParam "Comp Ratio"
Toggle+RotaryPushD2 NoAction
DisplayUpperD3 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Attack" "Att"
DisplayLowerD3 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Attack"
RotaryD3 FXParam "Comp Attack"
Toggle+RotaryPushD3 NoAction
DisplayUpperD4 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Hold" "Hold"
DisplayLowerD4 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Hold"
RotaryD4 FXParam "Comp Hold"
Toggle+RotaryPushD4 NoAction
DisplayUpperD5 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Release" "Rel"
DisplayLowerD5 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Release"
RotaryD5 FXParam "Comp Release"
Toggle+RotaryPushD5 NoAction
DisplayUpperD6 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Soft Knee" "Knee"
DisplayLowerD6 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Soft Knee"
RotaryD6 FXParam "Comp Soft Knee"
Toggle+RotaryPushD6 NoAction
DisplayUpperD7 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Type" "Type"
DisplayLowerD7 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Type"
RotaryD7 FXParam "Comp Type"
Toggle+RotaryPushD7 NoAction
DisplayUpperD8 FXParamNameDisplay "Comp Make-Up" "MakeUp"
DisplayLowerD8 FXParamValueDisplay "Comp Make-Up"
RotaryD8 FXParam "Comp Make-Up"
Toggle+RotaryPushD8 NoAction
DisplayUpperC1 FXParamNameDisplay "Limit Threshold" "Thresh"
DisplayLowerC1 FXParamValueDisplay "Limit Threshold"
RotaryC1 FXParam "Limit Threshold"
Toggle+RotaryPushC1 FXParam "Limiter In"
DisplayUpperC2 FXParamNameDisplay "Limit Attack" "Att"
DisplayLowerC2 FXParamValueDisplay "Limit Attack"
RotaryC2 FXParam "Limit Attack"
Toggle+RotaryPushC2 NoAction
DisplayUpperC3 FXParamNameDisplay "Limit Hold" "Hold"
DisplayLowerC3 FXParamValueDisplay "Limit Hold"
RotaryC3 FXParam "Limit Hold"
Toggle+RotaryPushC3 NoAction
DisplayUpperC4 FXParamNameDisplay "Limit Release" "Rel"
DisplayLowerC4 FXParamValueDisplay "Limit Release"
RotaryC4 FXParam "Limit Release"
Toggle+RotaryPushC4 NoAction
DisplayUpperC5 FXParamNameDisplay "Low Gain" "Gain"
DisplayLowerC5 FXParamValueDisplay "Low Gain"
RotaryC5 FXParam "Low Gain"
Toggle+RotaryPushC5 NoAction
DisplayUpperC6 FXParamNameDisplay "Input Gain" "Input"
DisplayLowerC6 FXParamValueDisplay "Input Gain"
RotaryC6 FXParam "Input Gain"
Toggle+RotaryPushC6 FXParam "Side Chain Eq In"
DisplayUpperC7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerC7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryC7 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushC7 NoAction
DisplayUpperC8 FXParamNameDisplay "High Gain" "Gain"
DisplayLowerC8 FXParamValueDisplay "High Gain"
RotaryC8 FXParam "High Gain"
Toggle+RotaryPushC8 NoAction
DisplayUpperB1 FXParamNameDisplay "Warmth Amount" "Warmth"
DisplayLowerB1 FXParamValueDisplay "Warmth Amount"
RotaryB1 FXParam "Warmth Amount"
Toggle+RotaryPushB1 FXParam "Warmth In"
DisplayUpperB2 FXParamNameDisplay "Trim"
DisplayLowerB2 FXParamValueDisplay "Trim"
RotaryB2 FXParam "Trim"
Toggle+RotaryPushB2 NoAction
DisplayUpperB3 FXParamNameDisplay "Key Input" "KeyIn"
DisplayLowerB3 FXParamValueDisplay "Key Input"
RotaryB3 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushB3 FXParam "Key Input"
DisplayUpperB4 FXParamNameDisplay "Dither Bit Depth" "Dither"
DisplayLowerB4 FXParamValueDisplay "Dither Bit Depth"
RotaryB4 FXParam "Dither Bit Depth"
Toggle+RotaryPushB4 NoAction
DisplayUpperB5 FXParamNameDisplay "Low Frequency" "LF"
DisplayLowerB5 FXParamValueDisplay "Low Frequency"
RotaryB5 FXParam "Low Frequency"
Toggle+RotaryPushB5 FXParam "LF Shelf In"
DisplayUpperB6 FXParamNameDisplay "Low Q" "LFQ"
DisplayLowerB6 FXParamValueDisplay "Low Q"
RotaryB6 FXParam "Low Q"
Toggle+RotaryPushB6 FXParam "EQ Signal"
DisplayUpperB7 FXParamNameDisplay "High Q" "HFQ"
DisplayLowerB7 FXParamValueDisplay "High Q"
RotaryB7 FXParam "High Q"
Toggle+RotaryPushB7 FXParam "EQ Sidechain"
DisplayUpperB8 FXParamNameDisplay "High Frequency" "HF"
DisplayLowerB8 FXParamValueDisplay "High Frequency"
RotaryB8 FXParam "High Frequency"
Toggle+RotaryPushB8 FXParam "HF Shelf In"
DisplayUpperA1 FXParamNameDisplay "Wet" "OxDyn1"
DisplayLowerA1 FXParamValueDisplay "Wet"
RotaryA1 FXParam "Wet"
Toggle+RotaryPushA1 FXParam "Bypass"
DisplayUpperA2 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA2 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA2 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA2 NoAction
DisplayUpperA3 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA3 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA3 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA3 NoAction
DisplayUpperA4 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA4 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA4 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA4 NoAction
DisplayUpperA5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA5 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA5 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA5 NoAction
DisplayUpperA6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA6 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA6 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA6 NoAction
DisplayUpperA7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA7 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA7 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA7 NoAction
DisplayUpperA8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
DisplayLowerA8 FXParamNameDisplay " "
RotaryA8 NoAction
Toggle+RotaryPushA8 NoAction
ZoneEnd
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IS that not just one "page/zone"" A1-D8,
What I was suggesting was that for some of the more elaborate Multi-band-compressors where there are more controls than the 32 knob, 32 push, or to make it visually more cohesive if you could have a second "page/zone/subzone" that has additional control options, rather than using modifiers, a button press splays those settings across any part of "A1-D8" as precoded, a second press drops it back to original splay.
EDIT: Just saw your second post (I'm blaming my REALLY slow internet) that's pretty much what I was suggesting.
In my defence, I've been trying to keep up with the thread while most of my gear was in boxes, so only getting setup now to try out the new build.
Last edited by Freex; 07-12-2019 at 06:13 AM.
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07-12-2019, 06:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
IS that not just one "page/zone"" A1-D8
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It is, but only because the second Zone has been written that way.
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...a button press splays those settings across any part of "A1-D8" as precoded, a second press drops it back to original splay.
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If you only want additional Zones to take over part of the 'Base' Zone, write them to take over only the bit you want.
Edit: ....just saw your edit. Pretty sure we're on the same page, npi
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07-12-2019, 06:17 AM
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But I've had another idea, that could be very cool, but may not be in practice,
If on track selection the Slots splayed on the C4
showing the names of the FX.
By pushing on the knob then dropped you into that FX, then some other button push dropped you back out to the overview.
No idea if it's possible or all that desirable in the real world but in my head it seems like it would be a nice option.
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07-12-2019, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
But I've had another idea, that could be very cool, but may not be in practice,
If on track selection the Slots splayed on the C4
showing the names of the FX.
By pushing on the knob then dropped you into that FX, then some other button push dropped you back out to the overview.
No idea if it's possible or all that desirable in the real world but in my head it seems like it would be a nice option.
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Cool idea !!
So let's split this into:
OnFXFocus
OnTrackSelection -- which may optionally be triggered by a button, as in the post a few back
OnFXFocus works just like it does now, with the addition of being able to add extra pages for really complex FX.
OnTrackSelection could attempt to splay all FX, and if it determined there is not enough room on the surface, it could then switch to displaying all the FX names , a push would then drill down to a specific FX, just like OnFXFocus.
Does this sound like a direction worth pursuing ?
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07-12-2019, 06:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
But I've had another idea, that could be very cool, but may not be in practice,
If on track selection the Slots splayed on the C4
showing the names of the FX.
By pushing on the knob then dropped you into that FX, then some other button push dropped you back out to the overview.
No idea if it's possible or all that desirable in the real world but in my head it seems like it would be a nice option.
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That's a great idea! and if it allowed the selected FX to map without (optionally) opening the FX window, even better! No more need to contrive navigation using Reaper Actions.
Quote:
OnTrackSelection could attempt to splay all FX, and if it determined there is not enough room on the surface, it could then switch to displaying all the FX names , a push would then drill down to a specific FX, just like OnFXFocus.
Does this sound like a direction worth pursuing ?
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I'd go with OnTrackSelection (via button) always displaying the FX slot names on the C4 (or MCU for that matter), unless there was only one FX, then after an FX is selected the behaviour is identical to OnFXFocus (as it is now, multi zone per FX)
I wouldn't bother with a sub menu showing the Zones available for the selected FX, I think we'll end up back down the stack rabbit hole , but obviously that's your call Geoff.
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07-12-2019, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
I'd go with OnTrackSelection (via button) always displaying the FX slot names on the C4 (or MCU for that matter), unless there was only one FX, then after an FX is selected the behaviour is identical to OnFXFocus (as it is now, multi zone per FX)
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Sounds good for the C4, looks like we may need different strategies for the C4 type surfaces vs the Console1 type surfaces -- with some obvious overlap (e.g. OnFXFocus).
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07-12-2019, 07:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
I wouldn't bother with a sub menu showing the Zones available for the selected FX, I think we'll end up back down the stack rabbit hole , but obviously that's your call Geoff.
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I'd tend to agree, while menus are good, or should that be an overview, menus of menus, could stifle work flow, i'd work on the presumion that if you're using an fx you know what it does/can do, so will already know of any additional pages.
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07-12-2019, 08:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
I'd tend to agree, while menus are good, or should that be an overview, menus of menus, could stifle work flow, i'd work on the presumion that if you're using an fx you know what it does/can do, so will already know of any additional pages.
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Ahh, I didn't get this on first read...
I think we're all in agreement -- The "drill down", "submenu", "sub zone", what ever you call it is accessed from the FX mapping:
A1-A8 show:
FX1 FX2 FX3 FX4 FX5 FX6 FX& FX8
When you press RotaryPushA1 you map FX1
FX1 is free to have whatever navigation you desire, including a button mapped :
Code:
someButton GoZone aSubZoneForFX1
Are we all on the same page (pun intended) ?
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07-12-2019, 09:33 AM
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That gets my vote, sounds very intuitive, and doesn't leave anything behind.
Will FX1, FX2.....
Actually have the VST NAME, when the slot is filled?
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07-12-2019, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
I swapped this one with mine and it works fine as well. Hardware ok? MIDI connections etc
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bahhh, ok thanks for checking. I have double/tripled checked the midi cables, swapped them, etc, same ones as previously, maybe a cable went bad or something. Do those suffer from interference at all?
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07-12-2019, 09:54 AM
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Could try updating the firmware, even with the same version.just incase it's got a bit forgetful.
I had a Zoom fxboard that I use to have to do that to, every once in a while.
It would throw out similar gobbledygook
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07-12-2019, 09:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Ahh, I didn't get this on first read...
I think we're all in agreement -- The "drill down", "submenu", "sub zone", what ever you call it is accessed from the FX mapping:
A1-A8 show:
FX1 FX2 FX3 FX4 FX5 FX6 FX& FX8
When you press RotaryPushA1 you map FX1
FX1 is free to have whatever navigation you desire, including a button mapped :
Code:
someButton GoZone aSubZoneForFX1
Are we all on the same page (pun intended) ?
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hell yea dude! you know, this is very very similar to Klinke's execution of FXs as well, albeit better of course because we have full control and more flexibility.
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07-12-2019, 09:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
That gets my vote, sounds very intuitive, and doesn't leave anything behind.
Will FX1, FX2.....
Actually have the VST NAME, when the slot is filled?
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Yup, and we'll have to allow aliases (like the params) to keep things readable
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07-12-2019, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
Could try updating the firmware, even with the same version.just incase it's got a bit forgetful.
I had a Zoom fxboard that I use to have to do that to, every once in a while.
It would throw out similar gobbledygook
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It's ver 1.02. I'm not even sure how to update the firmware, there is no usb or anyway to connect it to get software to/from. Only 5pin midi.
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07-12-2019, 10:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
It's ver 1.02. I'm not even sure how to update the firmware, there is no usb or anyway to connect it to get software to/from. Only 5pin midi.
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I had a Roland 8track that used midi sysex to update. Give mackie a shout, they'll have an answer for you. And should be able to send you the file.
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07-12-2019, 11:57 AM
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Mackie no longer supports the C4...
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07-12-2019, 12:11 PM
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poetnprophet
https://supportloudtech.netx.net/lou...category/11295
Any of that any use,
EDIT: don't think there's any firmware updates just the commander.
But I'd still fire off an email, I recall them being very helpful with me a few years ago, about something similar. (Can't remember what though)
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07-12-2019, 01:19 PM
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#3359
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
Mackie no longer supports the C4...
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Maybe install this: https://stash.reaper.fm/v/11712/WaddMCUC4.zip and see what happens...
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07-12-2019, 05:57 PM
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#3360
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Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London, England.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Ahh, I didn't get this on first read...
I think we're all in agreement -- The "drill down", "submenu", "sub zone", what ever you call it is accessed from the FX mapping:
A1-A8 show:
FX1 FX2 FX3 FX4 FX5 FX6 FX& FX8
When you press RotaryPushA1 you map FX1
FX1 is free to have whatever navigation you desire, including a button mapped :
Code:
someButton GoZone aSubZoneForFX1
Are we all on the same page (pun intended) ?
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Yep, on the same page, exactly what I had in mind
A button brings up FX1 FX2 FX3 FX4 FX5 FX6 FX7 FX8 on the C4 for the selected track.
When one of the FX is selected, navigation and parameter splay are handed over to that FX's .zon definition (ie exactly what we have now, minus any stack shenanigans)
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Yup, and we'll have to allow aliases (like the params) to keep things readable
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I think for this to work, it will have to be done at the Reaper level using its Rename FX facility (right click on plugin in browser) You probably won't need to to do anything in CSI, it should 'just work' like the renames assigned to plugins in an FX chain do.
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bahhh, ok thanks for checking. I have double/tripled checked the midi cables, swapped them, etc, same ones as previously, maybe a cable went bad or something. Do those suffer from interference at all?
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Not really, hardware wise MIDI is a 5mA opto isolated current loop. With decent cable (not mic cable!) it's good up to about 15m.
I would be more suspicious of the C4's power supply. Those sh***ty little black box switching PSUs can cause all kinds of grief when they start to fail. Try swapping it out if you can lay you hands on another.
Also Geoff's suggestion of trying the old WaddC4 software is a good one. If it works with that, your problem is software not hardware and we know where to look.
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