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Old 09-19-2019, 08:30 AM   #4801
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Yup, right after Learn Mode 1st draft is operational, that's the most requested feature right now
I agree that it's the most requested feature

But I would question the wisdom of releasing a mechanism capable of generating multiple FX Zones, when the infrastructure needed to support those extra Zones is broken.

As soon as users with a single MCU (or type) get their hands on a fully operational Learn Mode, they'll want to create those extra Zones to make their 8 Rotary/Pushes go farther in FX maps and they're more likely to choose FXMenu/SelectedTrackNavigator over OnFXFocus/FocusedFXNavigator as their solution.

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Yup, right after Learn Mode 1st draft is operational, that's the most requested feature right now
Any chance we could also try to center align the display texts?
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Lately, my setup has been acting WEIRD! Everything is fine, then suddenly I will select a track, or maybe adjust the vol or pan, and everything goes crazy on all surfaces: displays flashing, repeatedly as if the track keeps getting selected over and over, meters and all functions freeze (project will still play), and sometimes faders will even move by themselves...which is the scariest thing ever. I haven't changed a single thing (I don't think?) so this seems to be coming from nowhere.

Anybody experience this or have any insight? This is a new phenomenon for me. I have combed thru my zon files, nothing seems out of place. I'll check again later tonight.
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Lately, my setup has been acting WEIRD! Everything is fine, then suddenly I will select a track, or maybe adjust the vol or pan, and everything goes crazy on all surfaces: displays flashing, repeatedly as if the track keeps getting selected over and over, meters and all functions freeze (project will still play), and sometimes faders will even move by themselves...which is the scariest thing ever. I haven't changed a single thing (I don't think?) so this seems to be coming from nowhere.

Anybody experience this or have any insight? This is a new phenomenon for me. I have combed thru my zon files, nothing seems out of place. I'll check again later tonight.
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Seriously, its beyond strange! All 3 surfaces are affected by it. And, just as suddenly as it starts, it stops
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Old 09-19-2019, 09:05 AM   #4806
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If you've been switching between old and new versions of CSI, are you sure all the navigator names etc are correct?

No, I'm not switching back and forth, I've the new build on the home pc and an older one in the studio.
But learn mode came along with its fancy ways, big window and promises of sunglass for everyone and stomped all over my hard work

And for by the life of me I can't find the wood for the trees.
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Seriously, its beyond strange! All 3 surfaces are affected by it. And, just as suddenly as it starts, it stops
It sounds as if a MIDI buffer somewhere has been filling without emptying properly and then suddenly it does.

Try and think what you were doing in the time leading up to the 'event'. Recording, mixing, programming?
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Old 09-19-2019, 09:44 AM   #4808
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No, it's not TrackVolume I don't use the meters myself (I find them kinda annoying) but I think the syntax would be:
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 DisplayLower| VUMeter
As this obviously clashes with the Pan display, I'm hoping it's only active when Reaper is playing.

If this doesn't work, hopefully someone who does use the meters can chime in. Sorry I can't be more help.
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No it does not work. Maybe someone can give a little help on this one ?

EDIT: My guess that i have to build a dedicated zone for the meter , right ?
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Thanks, again.
No it does not work. Maybe someone can give a little help on this one ?

EDIT: My guess that i have to build a dedicated zone for the meter , right ?
I'm not able to pull that info from here at work, but when I'm back in the studio tonight I'll pull out my zon and post here.

Actually yes you have to define it in the mst file as well, then it goes in the channel section of the main zon
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Seriously, its beyond strange! All 3 surfaces are affected by it. And, just as suddenly as it starts, it stops
If you never open the Learn Mode Window, does it still do this ?
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No, I'm not switching back and forth, I've the new build on the home pc and an older one in the studio.
But learn mode came along with its fancy ways, big window and promises of sunglass for everyone and stomped all over my hard work

And for by the life of me I can't find the wood for the trees.
If you never open the Learn Mode Window, does it still do this ?
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:16 AM   #4812
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It sounds as if a MIDI buffer somewhere has been filling without emptying properly and then suddenly it does.

Try and think what you were doing in the time leading up to the 'event'. Recording, mixing, programming?
All of the above! Now that I think about it, I did modify a project template's FX and the C4 mapping. Call it Mix Template. But, I mostly work in my Recording Template, which was not modified at all. And, the only thing I changed ZON-wise was an FX zon (for an fx in the Mix template), so its weird that all of the surface would be affected.

When the issue happens, i can be recording, or not. I could be in playback, or not. I could be idle, but [I think] it always happens when I touch a FADER or ROTARY on the ProX/XS. reaper stuff still works (I can save the project when this happens and continue transport actions with keyboard).

It does seem/feel like a midi flood of some sort. When there's a "space", I can select another track from the surface, but the craziness persists. I can even select another Page, and it persists. But, if I try to move a fader or rotary, the value doesn't change until the next "space" in the midi stream and the parameter Jumps.
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If you never open the Learn Mode Window, does it still do this ?
Hi Geoff, I never open the learn window anyway...sorry. At least not in about a week or so.
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All of the above! Now that I think about it, I did modify a project template's FX and the C4 mapping. Call it Mix Template. But, I mostly work in my Recording Template, which was not modified at all. And, the only thing I changed ZON-wise was an FX zon (for an fx in the Mix template), so its weird that all of the surface would be affected.

When the issue happens, i can be recording, or not. I could be in playback, or not. I could be idle, but [I think] it always happens when I touch a FADER or ROTARY on the ProX/XS. reaper stuff still works (I can save the project when this happens and continue transport actions with keyboard).

It does seem/feel like a midi flood of some sort. When there's a "space", I can select another track from the surface, but the craziness persists. I can even select another Page, and it persists. But, if I try to move a fader or rotary, the value doesn't change until the next "space" in the midi stream and the parameter Jumps.
Hmmm...

Wonder if there is some sort of circular Zone definition when certain Zones are activated, causing a sort of Zone Feedback ?

Take a look at your Parent and Included Zones, perhaps there's something there.
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Hi Geoff, I never open the learn window anyway...sorry. At least not in about a week or so.
Good news, in a way, Learn Mode doesn't seem to be causing this...
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I'm not able to pull that info from here at work, but when I'm back in the studio tonight I'll pull out my zon and post here.

Actually yes you have to define it in the mst file as well, then it goes in the channel section of the main zon
But i already have the widgets created by default in the mst file

Widget VUMeter1
FB_MCUVUMeter 0
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter2
FB_MCUVUMeter 1
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter3
FB_MCUVUMeter 2
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter4
FB_MCUVUMeter 3
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter5
FB_MCUVUMeter 4
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter6
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Widget VUMeter7
FB_MCUVUMeter 6
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Widget VUMeter8
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VUMeter| TrackOutputMeter 1-8

EDIT: Now that i have meters i noticed that they are not has accurate has the standard MCU. By this i mean, when in reaper the signal goes up to orange (in my case orange is above -12 DBFs) i would like too have visual relation in the XTouch.

How can i change the sensibility of the meters to better relate to the meters on Reaper ?

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Old 09-19-2019, 02:20 PM   #4818
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haha, nevermind. glad you got it working. I will share what I have later, mine are pretty close to where they should be.
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Old 09-19-2019, 02:21 PM   #4819
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I've been thinking of building my own DIY REAPER control-surface/mixer for a few years now. This is the first time I have enough free time to pursue this goal.

I already have a rough design for the console and aquired some of the most expensive parts (like 28 TKD motorzied faders, want to get to 48 eventually). My vision is an "old" style console with "real" clicky buttons (no tact switches) and keeping button mapping 1:1 as much as possible. I dont like context-dependant buttons/encoders. I'll try to avoid endless rotary encoders in favour of endless rotary switches. I really dislike the lack of mechanical feedback on modern controllers, notably those endless rotary knobs on EQs where you have to look at a display to be able to see what is going on. I'll try to avoid features hidden in menus and things like that. I dont want fader banks and layers. The only modern feature I want is beign able to show sends on the motorized faders. Also want a OLED display for every channel to show some basic stats and a decently sized LED VU meter. I dislike touchscreens and want to keep mouse use to a minimum. I see mice as a necessary evil, some tasks just need it.

Yesterday I started researching how much integration I can expect between REAPER and the control surface. It seems that it's easy to send pretty much any action from a remote device into REAPER but not the other way round (send the state back to the surface). There are too many action/buttons that are not reported back via OSC to the surface. Also I am a bit worried about OSC overload from too many messages when dealing with larger format surfaces. I am sure there are more problems I am not even aware yet.

I would like to contribute and try to expand REAPER's OSC output capabilites to allow tight integration for more advanced control surfaces others might come up with. OSC output seems to be the bigger problem right now. I'll be honest and say that I dont have a clear road to the solution yet. I admit that I am a bit out of the loop and I have not read the 121 pages on this thread so maybe there is a solution to the OSC output problem. Let me know in that case please!

I am aware of the C/Python API so I'll start there.

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I edited the Installation page a bit -- let me know if you approve of the edit content/style/etc., you obviously can do a much better job on the this than I.

If that works, there are a few other spots I wouldn't mind taking a shot at -- mostly nit picky details
Go for it Geoff. So far it's mostly based on what I've gleaned from experiments, the forum and people's answers to my vague questions, so the more brains the better :-)

I'll probably take a crack at writing up something on FX zones this weekend.
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What works best for me is to open an FX chain window and navigate up or down the FX slots on a selected track:
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SlotUp Reaper _S&M_SHOWFXCHAINSEL
SlotUp Reaper _S&M_SELFXPREV

SlotDown Reaper _S&M_SHOWFXCHAINSEL
SlotDown Reaper _S&M_SELFXNEXT
Then, to close the FX chain and GoHome:
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Split Reaper _S&M_WNCLS4
Split GoZone Home
SlotUp, SlotDown and Split are buttons on my C4.

Also, this is the only way I've found to reliably focus FX windows on Mac. Just opening a window isn't sufficient to 'focus' it, even if it is in the foreground. Sometimes even clicking away and back to it doesn't work. It can get very frustrating and be even worse if you have no displays on your device to let you know that the map has loaded.

This doesn't happen on Windows, where everything behaves as expected.
Nice. I had the opening of the FX Chain window using standard actions, but stepping through them and closing the window is a definite improvement. Need to spend more time looking through the SWS actions.
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If you never open the Learn Mode Window, does it still do this ?
No it just seems broken. Did you have the C4emu working at your end?
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Nice. I had the opening of the FX Chain window using standard actions, but stepping through them and closing the window is a definite improvement. Need to spend more time looking through the SWS actions.
The SWS actions are gold

Also worth noting in the example, is assigning the close FX chain window and the GoZone Home commands to the same button, so they happen together.
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Go for it Geoff. So far it's mostly based on what I've gleaned from experiments, the forum and people's answers to my vague questions, so the more brains the better :-)

I'll probably take a crack at writing up something on FX zones this weekend.
Thanks, will chip away at it
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No it just seems broken. Did you have the C4emu working at your end?
Like a champ.

But I might have broken things somehow since then

Press has become important, but you already know that

And you also know Toggle give you Press for free

Other than that I'm still stumped...
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Default FX Zones and FX Chain Window

I'm noticing some weird behavior using MapFocusedFXToWidgets.

Setup a couple of FX on a track, and make sure the first one is one that has a zone defined for it.

The first time I bring up the FX Chain window (even manually) the first FX maps to it's zone automatically. All good.

Close the window and make sure you're back in your Home zone. Then bring the FX Chain window up again. The first FX will be focused, but it won't map to it's zone. Select the second one and then go back and select the first one and it does map correctly.

To be clear, all this happens the same whether bringing up the FX Chain window using the mouse or a Surface action. Same result. I'm on Windows.
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I'm noticing some weird behavior using MapFocusedFXToWidgets.

Setup a couple of FX on a track, and make sure the first one is one that has a zone defined for it.

The first time I bring up the FX Chain window (even manually) the first FX maps to it's zone automatically. All good.

Close the window and make sure you're back in your Home zone. Then bring the FX Chain window up again. The first FX will be focused, but it won't map to it's zone. Select the second one and then go back and select the first one and it does map correctly.

To be clear, all this happens the same whether bringing up the FX Chain window using the mouse or a Surface action. Same result. I'm on Windows.
That's pretty much the deal with the FocusedFXNavigator. The actual 'focusing' of the FX can be a bit vague, although it's much better on Windows than it is on Mac.

You could try:
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_S&M_SHOWFXCHAIN1
That will open the window and select the first FX in the chain. It might force the FX to focus.
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That will open the window and select the first FX in the chain. It might force the FX to focus.
Yeah, unfortunately I tried that one, no joy. When I get home I may try ShowFXChain, followed by Next then Prev. Might cause the zones to jump around a bit, but that's what I'm manually doing now anyway.

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haha, nevermind. glad you got it working. I will share what I have later, mine are pretty close to where they should be.
Here's what I have in the Zone Channel|1-8 section:

VUMeter| TrackOutputMeterMaxPeakLR
/VUMeter| TrackOutputMeterAverageLR


There are two choices...
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Yeah, unfortunately I tried that one, no joy. When I get home I may try ShowFXChain, followed by Next then Prev. Might cause the zones to jump around a bit, but that's what I'm manually doing now anyway.

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SlotUp Reaper _S&M_SELFXPREV
SlotDown Reaper _S&M_SELFXNEXT
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Good news, in a way, Learn Mode doesn't seem to be causing this...
Ok it's definitely something with the fader and/or those kinds of midi messages. if I move the fader, the C4 goes crazy. And if I move a rotary tick by tick, each tick refreshes the C4.

Here's my Channel zone:

Zone Channel|1-8
TrackNavigator
VUMeter| TrackOutputMeterMaxPeakLR
/VUMeter| TrackOutputMeterAverageLR
DisplayUpper| TrackNameDisplay
DisplayLower| TrackPanDisplay
TrackTouch+DisplayLower| TrackVolumeDisplay
RotaryPush| GoZone PanWidth|
Rotary| TrackPan 0
RecordArm| TrackRecordArm
Solo| TrackSolo
Mute| TrackMute
Select| TrackUniqueSelect
Shift+Select| TrackRangeSelect
Control+Select| TrackSelect
Shift+Control+Select| TogglePin
Option+Select| TrackFolderDive
Fader| TrackVolume
TrackTouch+Fader| TrackVolume
FaderTouch| TrackTouch
ZoneEnd

Zone Pan|1-8
TrackNavigator
Rotary| TrackPan 0
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:14 AM   #4832
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Ok it's definitely something with the fader and/or those kinds of midi messages. if I move the fader, the C4 goes crazy. And if I move a rotary tick by tick, each tick refreshes the C4.
Thanks man, that's good info, will check into it.
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:53 AM   #4833
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Like a champ.

But I might have broken things somehow since then

Press has become important, but you already know that

And you also know Toggle give you Press for free

Other than that I'm still stumped...

If you get a chance, could you run the emu and see what you're getting.
I also noticed that in the C4 zone folder there is a rouge C4Osc file.
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:32 AM   #4834
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If you get a chance, could you run the emu and see what you're getting.
I also noticed that in the C4 zone folder there is a rouge C4Osc file.
C4 emu working fine here.

That's not a rogue file, that's the file I was using for testing -- it's also the file you should use.

I had to make changes to the .touchosc, .ost, and .zon files you sent, so you should use the ones supplied, at least for initial testing.

Did not change the FabFilter .zon files, you can use the C4OSC.zon file as an example for making those changes.
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:43 AM   #4835
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C4 emu working fine here.

That's not a rogue file, that's the file I was using for testing -- it's also the file you should use.

I had to make changes to the .touchosc, .ost, and .zon files you sent, so you should use the ones supplied, at least for initial testing.

Did not change the FabFilter .zon files, you can use the C4OSC.zon file as an example for making those changes.
I see what's happened now, you put C4OSC in C4 folder, but for me the C4 folder already had C4 (realsurface) in it, hence me having a C4OSC Folder (which you wouldn't have, what with not having a C4 lol).
And as you know we can't have to zones with essentially the same Zone layout in the same Zonefolder.

I guess in the build there should be (as I thought there already was) C4 and C4OSC folders. lol

I'll try this later and see how i get on. Thanks.
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I see what's happened now, you put C4OSC in C4 folder, but for me the C4 folder already had C4 (realsurface) in it, hence me having a C4OSC Folder (which you wouldn't have, what with not having a C4 lol).
And as you know we can't have to zones with essentially the same Zone layout in the same Zonefolder.

I guess in the build there should be (as I thought there already was) C4 and C4OSC folders. lol

I'll try this later and see how i get on. Thanks.
I thought the idea was to work on real C4 .zons with the C4 emu, wouldn't you want those results to end up in your regular C4 folder.

I see three options:

1) Use the regular C4.zon file, but you lose the Transport, etc. that you defined for the emu.

2) Use the C4OSC.zon file -- to get the extra features you added for Touch OSC, and you will end up with meaningless C4 definitions when you use the real hardware -- those definitions should be harmless.

3) Swap the C4.zon and C4OSC.zon files in and out of the C4 folder as necessary.

Personally, I'd try option 2 and see if that works for you.
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I thought the idea was to work on real C4 .zons with the C4 emu, wouldn't you want those results to end up in your regular C4 folder.

I see three options:

1) Use the regular C4.zon file, but you lose the Transport, etc. that you defined for the emu.

2) Use the C4OSC.zon file -- to get the extra features you added for Touch OSC, and you will end up with meaningless C4 definitions when you use the real hardware -- those definitions should be harmless.

3) Swap the C4.zon and C4OSC.zon files in and out of the C4 folder as necessary.

Personally, I'd try option 2 and see if that works for you.
I guess for anyone without a C4 it's no biggie.
I have two systems one with C4 and one without, but having the Fxzones tested and in one place would be alot more streamline.

As you say, I'll try option 2 (which seems have the most to gain from)

Thanks again.

The Devil is truely in the details, as are all the gremlins lol.
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Maybe try these:

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Thanks

I'm using those first two assigned to buttons at the moment and doing them manually, which does the trisk. However doing them as part of the same button Press as showing the FXChain window doesn'tseem to work.

What are those last two? Is that moving the track selection left/right? Are they standard actions?
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:53 AM   #4839
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OHh, those are custom actions I think. Moves the track L/R and opens the FX chain. The idea was to use L/R to select track chains and UP/Down to cycle thru the fx on each chain...using FocusedFX. But I don't use focused FX anymore so I forgot they did that.

the custom action for Next fx chain (R) is:

Sws close all floating fx
track go to next track
show fx chain for select tracks
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Finally got it to work, aside from the changes to some definition, the big culprit as far as i can see is that the Auto Maps don't seem to work anymore.
I knew sends and FXMenu were broken but i did realise everything was.

I set up the toggles as

Press+EQ ToggleLearnMode
Press+Plugin ToggleMapFocusedFX
Press+Instrument ToggleMapSelectedTrackFXMenu

And got the main FX working, Shift not doing it's thing though

Should the Modifiers be
Shift Shift
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Press+Shift Shift
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Toggle+Shift Shift
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