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Old 01-30-2006, 02:04 AM   #41
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OK, then this is what I will do, for auto input monitoring mode:

when stopped, input monitors
when playing, input does not monitor (items in track play)

when in "record mode", it uses the following logic:
if current time is on a selected event,
monitor input
do not play selected event
otherwise, just play any track events that may be there, and do NOT monitor input.


Is that acceptable for everybody?

-J
Lose the "selected events" terminology. There is just no precedent for it, and it confuses the whole thing.

When you are stopped, or press record while playing back, you monitor input ONLY at the time that you press record and until you press record again to disengage recording, or press stop. Otherwise, you monitor whatever may be on the track.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:06 AM   #42
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Lose the "selected events" terminology. There is just no precedent for it, and it confuses the whole thing.
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Ignore this last statement please. We vegans get along very well with the selected event thing
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:07 AM   #43
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Lose the "selected events" terminology. There is just no precedent for it, and it confuses the whole thing.

When you are stopped, or press record while playing back, you monitor input ONLY at the time that you press record and until you press record again to disengage recording, or press stop. Otherwise, you monitor whatever may be on the track.
Uhh, well it is relevant. If an item (event) on the track is selected, it functions like an auto-punch in /out, so if that's the case, do we monitor the input only over that item or for the whole time? (edit: in case its not clear, we are going to monitor input only over that item, not the whole time)

Precedent or not, I'm just trying to get things working in such a way so that it makes sense, given how everything else works.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:10 AM   #44
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YES!!!

Those who have seen the light, please take pity on the children of darkness. For they understand not, what they know not. What bliss has been denied to them is a thing of fear unto them. Yet will it always be? Nay! They too shall bathe in the glorius light of the ture path!
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:12 AM   #45
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Uhh, well it is relevant. If an item (event) on the track is selected, it functions like an auto-punch in /out, so if that's the case, do we monitor the input only over that item or for the whole time?

Precedent or not, I'm just trying to get things working in such a way so that it makes sense, given how everything else works.
I understand what your "selected event" thing is about. But, if you read what I posted above, then you will see that Auto Punch In/Out behavior was covered. Not trying to be testy, it is just that your "selected event" thingy is just a sort of 'quick' way to get a punch in/out points, and truthfully, I may or may not use it. In the flow of a session, it may not make much sense to use it.

So, the BEHAVIOR of auto input monitoring is a concern, and the behavior it needs to have with auto punch in/out mode is a concern. Selected Event just falls under auto punch in/out, and seems to be a "fancy" way to get in/out times. But, it doesn't change the behavior of auto input monitoring in relation to auto punch in/out mode.

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Old 01-30-2006, 02:13 AM   #46
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Everyone please refer to this diagram....and explaination...I'm exausted.

http://d49.yousendit.com/C/34LPFZVZD...-Recording.jpg

One correction in Step 5, where it says "If input monitoring is turned on..."

That's a typo...it should say, "If Auto-Input Monitoring is ON...."

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yes were all on the same page then

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Old 01-30-2006, 02:16 AM   #48
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Everyone please refer to this diagram....and explaination...I'm exausted.

http://d49.yousendit.com/C/34LPFZVZD...-Recording.jpg
Oh you cheater, you are SO busted
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:19 AM   #49
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yes were all on the same page then

quick lock the thread!!!!
But, but, but....I NEED to argue some more!
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:23 AM   #50
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OK but seriously, if in auto input monitoring mode, and recording, and no events are selected, shouldnt it monitor the input?

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Old 01-30-2006, 02:25 AM   #51
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Oh you cheater, you are SO busted
I had to cheat, I didn't have enough time to put my own diagrams together and we have what I call a "lack of mass" problem in trying to understand each other. We needed a visual aid. I think a lot of those words may be mine anyways.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:36 AM   #52
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"OK but seriously, if in auto input monitoring mode, and recording, and no events are selected, shouldnt it monitor the input?"

YES...YES...You are in Record mode at this point. Under that circumstance you hit the record button, and therefore entered into record mode at that point. The diagram that I just posted, shows it works the EXACT same way when there is an Event selected. The only difference is that it doesn't Go into Record mode until the cursor reaches the selected event. So although you hit the Record button....it doesn't go into Record MODE. That's where I think the confusion is, you're not distinquishing the difference between hitting the record button, and when you enter record "mode". I don't know how else to explain this any simpler. Please ask more questions if there's something you don't understand.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:41 AM   #53
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OK can we argue about grids now?
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:43 AM   #54
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Hell, it's 4:45 AM now Michigany time....I'm out, you guys kept me up way past my bedtime.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:47 AM   #55
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OK can we argue about grids now?
What is there to argue about? You HAVE to have them to edit worth a damn!

You HAVE TO HAVE GRIDS TO EDIT EFFECTIVELY!
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:49 AM   #56
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yeah but they could be cool grids like acid, or ugly grids like sonar

or something new and better
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Old 01-30-2006, 03:11 AM   #57
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1. Play mode= Monitor what's on track
2. Record mode= Monitor Input
3. Stop mode= Monitor Input
I couldn't have said it better myself
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Old 01-30-2006, 05:03 AM   #58
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OK can we argue about grids now?
Mate, some grid action, now you are talking my language. Bring it on baby; I’ll get my baseball bat.
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:16 AM   #59
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I couldn't have said it better myself
I sure hope we got it, I didn't think I could simplify it any further. I just think there was a lot of confusion as to when you actually went into "record mode" with the selected event stuff. It's actually functioning correct for the seleted event punch-in stlye recording in v.54. The only thing that wasn't functioning properly was the auto-input monitoring, because it wasn't following those 3 guidelines. If Justin just follows those three guidelines, then I think we're all set.
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