Old 02-10-2011, 08:35 PM   #1
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I've spent two hours trying to get into piano roll view. The pdf says Alt 1, but I'm on a laptop with no num pad. I'm guessing that's why it didn't work. I'm mystified because the pdf says piano roll is the default view. It must be right under my nose, but this is driving me nuts Thanks for any help.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:39 PM   #2
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Forgive me for asking the obvious, but you do have the MIDI editor open, and that window has active focus, right?

If not, that's the problem. Alt-1 won't open the MIDI editor. It just switches between one of the other views and the Piano Roll view.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:43 PM   #3
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No. I don't have the midi editor open. That's exactly what I'm trying to do basically. How do you open it please?
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:52 PM   #4
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Try Insert->new midi item to insert a midi clip. Then double-click the clip.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:53 PM   #5
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This should be a very simple and quickly accessible thing. I've loaded up a couple virtual instruments and all I want to do is scribble in a few notes to start experimenting, but I can't get into piano roll view. On my other sequencers it's literally one mouse click right at the top of the screen.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:54 PM   #6
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cross post. Ok. I'll try that. Thanks.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:56 PM   #7
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Aah. That did it. Thanks much, qwanta.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:56 PM   #8
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yeah, in reaper you have to create a MIDI item first.

Basically its the menu insert and midi item at the top.

then you double click on the midi item you made which should appear on the track, and that pops open the piano roll view.
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Old 02-10-2011, 09:18 PM   #9
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As an alternative to the insert menu, you can also hold down the ctrl key and draw new midi clips into the arrangement area of a track.
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As an alternative to the insert menu, you can also hold down the ctrl key and draw new midi clips into the arrangement area of a track.
Yeah, I learned this here recently. Very cool. Yet I still find myself inserting a midi item first, then double clicking. Talk about a creature of habit!
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Oh, another cool thing. Double right click on a piano key and you can name it what you want. Love this feature.
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:14 PM   #12
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Aah. So, we could double right click on, say, C# and rename it . . . C#? Sorry. Couldn't resist.

That Control-draw shortcut is good to know too. Thanks.
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Aah. So, we could double right click on, say, C# and rename it . . . C#? Sorry. Couldn't resist.
No, no, no. If you play a wrong note, you rename it to what it should have been and it fixes itself. Forget all that midi editor stuff. This is really how it's done.

Same concept in audio files. If you don't like what you played, rename it to, say, "soaring lead riff," or "cool blues bass run." Great for fixing problems here and there.

Yeah, Reaper's pretty cool.
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No, no, no. If you play a wrong note, you rename it to what it should have been and it fixes itself. Forget all that midi editor stuff. This is really how it's done.

Same concept in audio files. If you don't like what you played, rename it to, say, "soaring lead riff," or "cool blues bass run." Great for fixing problems here and there.

Yeah, Reaper's pretty cool.
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