Old 12-07-2022, 01:31 AM   #121
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To be frank, I understand the original poster’s frustration. I pretty much started out with REAPER and I’ve been trying for fifteen years, unsuccessfully, to leave it.

The story is always the same. I switch to another DAW and I’m super happy for a while. Everything is so pretty and well thought out. But then I start finding things I just can’t do or are forced to do in cumbersome ways. Or I realize how much slower I work because the immediate snappiness of REAPER is absent. So I switch back to REAPER and can’t for the life of me understand why I left.

Rinse, repeat.
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Old 12-07-2022, 08:59 AM   #122
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Reaper has sharp knees. Way below my standards.
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:25 AM   #123
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To be frank, I understand the original poster’s frustration. I pretty much started out with REAPER and I’ve been trying for fifteen years, unsuccessfully, to leave it.

The story is always the same. I switch to another DAW and I’m super happy for a while. Everything is so pretty and well thought out. But then I start finding things I just can’t do or are forced to do in cumbersome ways. Or I realize how much slower I work because the immediate snappiness of REAPER is absent. So I switch back to REAPER and can’t for the life of me understand why I left.

Rinse, repeat.
Most recently I tried Presonus Studio One and I experienced 5 crashes within 4 hours, related to (I think) more than one plugin. I sent them every detail I could, but never received a response...

That's actually been the story with more than one DAW in the last few years. I get turned off by instability way before I can even begin to appreciate any of the things that might attract me as a user.
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Old 12-07-2022, 11:14 AM   #124
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Function over Form. Reaper Just Works. Reaper is a tool, not the product itself.

Still, it is always possible to improve a tool. LARGER FONTS, FOR EXAMPLE.
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Old 12-07-2022, 11:21 AM   #125
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That sounds just like my circa 2008 experience with Protools HD, Digital Performer, Ableton Crash, and Studio One.

I remember keeping a laptop in OS9 for a couple years past OSX release because Digital Performer just failed on the transition to OSX. That was my remote recording platform. Protools in the studio was separate because hardware inputs for it were expensive as could be.

The iPad was just released and I realized it was a remote control for a computer. I got the bug to try running live sound with a DAW after reading about a couple newer DAWs that could do lower latency. Protools HD was always set it highest latency possible and still cross your fingers. DP wasn't an option and they were already crashing and burning.

Tried Ableton Crash first. All the people appearing to do live performance with it and all. Lived up to its name! (The one I gave it anyway.) No low latency or live sound if you try to use any plugins at all. OK, next!

Reading about this new comer Studio One and 64 bit mix engine and bla bla. Didn't work. Again, the low latency thing was no go. And their tech support wasn't up and running yet. I caught them literally with their introduction.

Stumbled across Reaper. Everything worked. I was roaming around a club with an iPad running sound and bringing home multitrack recordings. Then the Protools HD v9 product ending debacle of all crash scenarios hits. Reaper just took over there and turned out to be a huge upgrade in features as well. Nothing else matters!

I still go through DOA software trials all the time that straight up don't deliver. It seems to be more the rule than the exception these days. How about all those subscription scams? I know it's literally payback for piracy but still. Kind of a "hold my beer" kind of payback!

I'm cautious with software now. Subscriptions or anything requiring online connection to run is strictly avoided. No paid mobile apps that can get removed or become un-installable at someone else's whim. Demos with restricted critical features suggest to me that said feature isn't really up and running.
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Old 12-07-2022, 11:30 AM   #126
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they don't want help, they want people to back them up with the same experience. Not every complaint is a problem that needs to be solved. Sometimes you just have to say "that sucks" so they feel heard.


Hey OP. That really sucks that you feel that way. I get bored/frustrated/uninspired and confused by reaper too, and I have 20K+ hours of use.

In those times I think back on my worst jobs (fast food cook) before audio was my job, and how difficult recording was when I first got started so many years ago. This helps keep things in perspective and doesn't feel so bad anymore.

Time away from the computer to focus on other interests is also very helpful.

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Old 12-07-2022, 12:20 PM   #127
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The words of wisdom.
As it turned out the OP did actually want help and he got it!

The last line about "time away" is good though.
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Old 12-07-2022, 01:57 PM   #128
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As it turned out the OP did actually want help and he got it!

The last line about "time away" is good though.
The missus is feeling 'scattered'?
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Old 12-25-2022, 02:17 AM   #129
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Aw, here it is Christmas Day and I just can't help myself.

What a great bunch of folks! What a community! What a DAW! Thanks, y'all!

I got serious about tackling Reaper about 10 years ago, converting from Sonar. During the first few weeks I almost gave up more than once. But the forums and manual got me through, and the questions usually got answered before I had time to post them. Maybe it gets a bit fiddly at times, but when you get it working for you, Zowie!

Hope the OP gets relief.

Side note: In 10 years I can remember only 3 crashes, all due to VST weirdness. I was getting that many a DAY with Sonar.
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Old 12-25-2022, 02:37 AM   #130
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I use Reaper and I love it.

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Old 12-25-2022, 01:34 PM   #131
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Reaper has sharp knees. Way below my standards.
What does that even mean
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Old 12-25-2022, 02:27 PM   #132
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What does that even mean
Good question. Looking at the first sentence, what I get from this is that you should not play basketball with Reaper.

As for the second sentence, it appears that Reaper is not up to this poster's standards. fine. Use whatever your standards require. some info on why this is the case might be helpful. Otherwise, it just appears to be a rather elitist remark. but possibly there is some latent humor that I, in my frequently slow uptake, am not getting.
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Old 12-25-2022, 03:01 PM   #133
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What does that even mean
It could possibly be a somewhat oblique reference to ReaComp with which the poster is unsatisfied because he considers the knees to be too hard, but unless he cares to elaborate we may never know.
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Old 12-25-2022, 03:11 PM   #134
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It could possibly be a somewhat oblique reference to ReaComp with which the poster is unsatisfied because he considers the knees to be too hard, but unless he cares to elaborate we may never know.
I considered this, but the knee size is adjustable on reacomp.
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...=sharp%20knees

ie commentary on people who criticise stuff that is too good for them.
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Old 12-25-2022, 03:58 PM   #136
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ie commentary on people who criticise stuff that is too good for them.
Okay, but how does this translate to a DAW?
Asking for a friend.
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Old 12-25-2022, 04:01 PM   #137
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Okay, but how does this translate to a DAW?
Asking for a friend.
Replace "woman" with "DAW".
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yes, it's what is known as an analogy (i think)
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Old 12-25-2022, 04:26 PM   #139
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Sure, but this analogy doesn't make sense. What part of a DAW would translate to unattractive knees?
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Old 12-25-2022, 04:33 PM   #140
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...=sharp%20knees

ie commentary on people who criticise stuff that is too good for them.
Jeez. I have no idea what 90% of Urban Dictionary entries mean.
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Old 12-25-2022, 04:35 PM   #141
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"Reaper is too high-key low-key for me..."
Just put random sayings that dont necessarily say anything bad or good, and it makes just as much sense.
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Sure, but this analogy doesn't make sense. What part of a DAW would translate to unattractive knees?
GUI?
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Old 12-25-2022, 04:45 PM   #143
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GUI?
Ah, maybe, I guess. Like it matters. I hear theres themes for Reaper. Never used one. To be honest, I wish it just looked like a mixer with a parametric EQ, a switch that does off, 10, 40 and 80hz HPF for low cuts, fader, trim, send and receive knobs (that go to 100 wet), -48,-24, -18, -12, -6, 0 and OL lights, pan knob, mute arm and solo buttons, the routing button, an indicator for foldered tracks and a window that only shows the wav form of seperately selected tracks, that expands and shrinks as you add/remove the selection. I'm a simple man.
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Sure, but this analogy doesn't make sense. What part of a DAW would translate to unattractive knees?
Analogy was probably the wrong word. Apologies.
Chip McDonald is merely pointing out, via the medium of a mock post, that people will sometimes criticise an often minor or unimportant feature whilst overlooking all the obvious benefits of the package as a whole, usually because they aren't up to the task of reaping those benefits anyway
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Analogy was probably the wrong word. Apologies.
Chip McDonald is merely pointing out, via the medium of a mock post, that people will sometimes criticise an often minor or unimportant feature whilst overlooking all the obvious benefits of the package as a whole
Ah, so it was a sarcastic response to the OP or someone else with negative feelings about reaper. Got it.
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happy to help
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...=sharp%20knees

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Well you learn something evey day, and half the time you wish you could unlearn it!
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Old 12-26-2022, 03:40 AM   #148
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Are we heading for a new version of the old "random bollocks posting" forum that got cancelled?

If we could keep the politics & religion out of it, I would LOVE to be able to play about in that once more...

Juuust kidding.
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I'd say, give sharp knees a chance!
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Old 12-26-2022, 06:14 AM   #150
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I'd say, give sharp knees a chance!
Yeah, I'd line up to have my knees sharpened, especially if the arthritus would be blunted (bluntened??? nah, probably not!)



And I'm sure domzy's answer is the sharpest.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:23 AM   #151
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they don't want help, they want people to back them up with the same experience. Not every complaint is a problem that needs to be solved. Sometimes you just have to say "that sucks" so they feel heard.


Hey OP. That really sucks that you feel that way. I get bored/frustrated/uninspired and confused by reaper too, and I have 20K+ hours of use.

In those times I think back on my worst jobs (fast food cook) before audio was my job, and how difficult recording was when I first got started so many years ago. This helps keep things in perspective and doesn't feel so bad any more.

Time away from the computer to focus on other interests is also very helpful.

Epic response! (Pun Intended!)

And it's true!

Reaper (at times) drives me mad more than any other DAW has! (due to the hours I have put in on it) but when I have to work in another DAW, now that's really Fing annoying!

On the flip side! The devs and community are amazing! (I mean absolutely amazing!) and support must be endless! There are so many ways to config this beast that will make it act totally different! Somehow, the devs keep posting the same screenshots and the same solution's day in and day out, without patronizing anyone! Plus do all the other (hopefully more fun) support & development stuff!

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Old 12-26-2022, 10:39 AM   #152
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REAPER: It's the Bee's Knees.

Justin, you have my permission to use that as a title for an upcoming version. Unless you already used it. In which case I apologize for yet another stupid post.
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Old 12-26-2022, 12:38 PM   #153
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Sure, but this analogy doesn't make sense. What part of a DAW would translate to unattractive knees?
The stock EQ plugin.

Just a guess.
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Old 12-27-2022, 06:50 AM   #154
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Reaper has sharp knees. Way below my standards.
hahaha.
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they don't want help, they want people to back them up with the same experience. Not every complaint is a problem that needs to be solved. Sometimes you just have to say "that sucks" so they feel heard.
My guess is that you are a happily married man.
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Old 04-23-2023, 10:59 AM   #156
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This has to be some well-planned trolling
That's hilarious
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Old 04-24-2023, 08:42 AM   #157
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I'm totally serious and just wanted to know if I was alone.
I'm gonna guess you're alone.
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Old 04-24-2023, 08:49 AM   #158
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"Sharp knees" goes way back into the internet storage warehouse. The Fark foobies tab went away a long time ago, but Studman69 lives on forever.

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