11-19-2022, 05:44 AM | #481 |
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Avlinux is using a wine 6.22 I believe. This is because of the need for wineasio. Btw what is [ann] stand for in the title of this thread? |
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ANNouncement. Developers usually prefix announcement posts in mailing lists and forums with that when they announce new releases of their software. |
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11-23-2022, 01:48 PM | #484 |
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Hi there,
yabridge started crashing Reaper out of a sudden on Fedora 37. Just yesterday I had it working great, and I think I did 'dnf upgrade' which upgraded a bunch of packages, can't recall which ones. Now it says 'Failed to start the Wine plugin host; check yabridge's output for more ...' (the message is truncated) for plenty of Windows VSTs. I thought it was related to that Wine 7.21 issue, but wine --version prints: 'wine-7.20 (Staging)' for me (BTW should I still use staging?). Reaper terminal gives no clue except for this message: 'WARNING: Your locale is broken. Yabridge was kind enough to monkey patch it for you in this DAW session, but you should probably take a look at it terminate called without an active exception' How can I precisely analyse what's going on? There's no yabridge log in .vst nor .vst3. Thanks, - A BTW Where's that Discord server at? I don't find a link to it anywhere ... |
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11-23-2022, 04:47 PM | #486 |
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Thanks Robert for your quick reply. I fixed it by creating a new container and reinstalling wine. It seems Wine was the problem, although can't pinpoint why.
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11-24-2022, 05:18 AM | #487 |
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I keep getting a error that the discord link has expired or invalid. |
11-24-2022, 06:14 AM | #488 | |
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11-24-2022, 06:19 AM | #489 |
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I have a support request I’m waiting on a reply.
I live in a dead hole for mobile phones and that is what they use for verifying you. So that may be the issue, we will find out. Thanks for the reply I will post the responce. Edit: a mobile phone is required. So will keep in touch here. Last edited by Steve9600; 12-01-2022 at 06:21 AM. |
11-27-2022, 08:08 AM | #490 |
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Thank you for the advisory notice concerning Wine 7.21 and Yabridge compatibility issues. I assume the same goes for Wine 7.22? Has anyone tested it?
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11-27-2022, 09:18 AM | #491 |
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Haven’t . I think Robert-vdh will update this thread when fix is out.
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11-27-2022, 04:18 PM | #492 | |
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The main reason why I didn't do that already is because working around low level bugs this way is just juggling chainsaws, and when it works it's great but anything can happen so I thought just telling people to stick with an older version that's guaranteed to work is probably better than using a newer version that may or may not work. |
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11-28-2022, 07:33 AM | #493 |
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[ANN] yabridge 5.0.2, Yet Another hotfix release for Wine 7.22
The last yabridge release contains a workaround for a bug in Wine 7.21 that would cause yabridge to hang indefinitely on startup, but the builds up on GitHub were still affected by a different part the bug (who knew unpredictable low level bugs can be unpredictable?). I was hoping Wine would have fixed the bug in time for Wine 7.22, but the bug still hasn't been fixed and it doesn't look like it's going to get much attention anytime soon. So this release mostly changes how the packaged versions of yabridge are built to hopefully allow them to work with recent Wine versions again. Since all of these bandaids won't fix the actual underlying Wine bug, I still can't guarantee that everything works as it should until Wine fixes this. If you still encounter freezes or crashes with yabridge 5.0.2, do consider downgrading back to Wine Staging 7.20.
The only actual change in this release is a change to how redraws work. This may make resizing and dragging editor windows around a lot smoother, especially when using window managers that send excessive events when a window is moved like in Cinnamon and XFCE. https://github.com/robbert-vdh/yabri...ases/tag/5.0.2 |
11-29-2022, 09:23 AM | #494 |
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Is there any advantage using CLAP windows over VST and VST3 ?
Better overhead or compatibility ? |
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From u-he
https://u-he.com/community/clap/
They can comment better on this than I can… I have yet to try it out. But I will soon . Sorry this post was posted to the wrong thread.. Last edited by Steve9600; 11-29-2022 at 09:50 AM. |
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Yes the overhead will be a bit lower, you get some niceties like non-destructive modulation and polyphonic modulation in plugins that support in (not in REAPER of course), and resizing is a lot smoother.
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I read about CLAP already my question was more towards will it run better more stable ? |
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11-29-2022, 09:39 AM | #498 |
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I just gave you the answer. Read my comment again. Bridging overhead will be a bit lower, resizing is smoother, you'll get some additional nice features, and at least right now there's much less API and implementation specific weirdness that needs to be worked around.
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11-30-2022, 05:07 AM | #501 |
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Uh I don't know what you did but you probably made a mistake somewhere when you added your plugin directories. Check `yabridgectl list`. Yabridgectl should catch most user errors, like if you tried adding ~/.vst to the plugin directories, but it may not catch everything.
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11-30-2022, 05:18 AM | #502 |
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This happened to me, by running yabridgectl add each time I added vsts.
Deleted the extra folders ran yabridgectl sync and that cleared up the issue. Now when I add vsts I add them to 1 dir and run sync also when I update yabridge All I need to do is rename the old ./ local/yabridge to oldyabridge extract the update to ./local/yabridge run yabridgectl sync and it updates the vsts and the if I updated wine that will make the new wine work with yabridge. |
11-30-2022, 09:08 AM | #503 |
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Tried 5.02 today
Upgraded wine to 7.22 and upgraded yabridge to 5.02…..fast vst loads in reaper.
Reaper performance meter instead of using 1.50 average for midiguitar 2 with one of their presets it Took just 0.29- 0.35 Added another track with same input and a vst and it took only 0.45-0.50 of the fix cpu. Great work! Fixed this “issue” I went ahead and installed some other updates that included some libs and it works flawlessly. The one process did not quit but it was using 0%. So assume that process staying up is normal. Here it is… One question…issue? One of the vst processes took 13% of the cpu and after shutting down reaper it did not terminate. Closed it manually. Edit… see fix above. You may assume that I was watching the task manager. I don’t know this might be normal or not, everything was running smooth. Anyway love the results! Last edited by Steve9600; 11-30-2022 at 09:25 AM. |
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And when REAPER unloads the plugin it also SIGINTs the process in case it has not yet shut down. |
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11-30-2022, 09:43 AM | #505 |
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A system update or just reloading the program a few times fixed it.
Still left running but not using any resources. Works for me. Thanks |
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I have a general question about yabridge: why does it use staging, and can we use regular wine instead? Just trying to understand how things work.
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11-30-2022, 11:40 AM | #507 |
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You could, but, why would you? Wine Staging includes additional patches and will get you better compatibility and sometimes also better performance.
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11-30-2022, 11:55 AM | #508 |
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Well, because staging is riddled with experimental patches that might break things? Is staging a requirement for yabridge or just good to have?
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11-30-2022, 11:56 AM | #509 |
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It's not a requirement. You'll just run into more things that don't work if you don't use it, so why not just use it?
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11-30-2022, 12:11 PM | #510 |
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I see. Well, I guess it's a balancing act between suffering through experimental wine patches and suffering through other things not working through yabridge.
I'm using it now, I was just thinking whether I should go over to regular wine. For now I'll stay. I'm looking into replacing all Windows VSTs with Linux counterparts anyway, so ... |
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If all your plugins do work with normal wine, than I guess you can use it. And if you encounter a problem try wine-staging. |
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I guess it's actually wine that's so finicky tho...learned the hard way you can break wine for some things while fixing it for others, so best to isolate the difficult ones.
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[ANN] yabridge 5.0.3, fully functional with all Wine versions again (for now)
The Wine bug that broke yabridge in combination with Wine 7.21, 7.22, and 8.0-rc1 has finally been fixed. This did require yabridge to be rebuilt against Wine 8.0-rc2, but on the flipside these updated yabridge builds will once again work with every Wine version after 5.7, including 7.21, 7.22, and 8.0-rc1. This yabridge release simply reverts the workarounds from yabridge 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 and provides updated builds that work with all current Wine versions.
The full changelog (containing mostly notes and instructions for package maintainers) can be found here: https://github.com/robbert-vdh/yabri...ases/tag/5.0.3 |
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Thank you very much. Then I finally can take wine from my package-managers ignore lists
And also thank you for all your reporting, regarding this issue! |
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Those updates are simply wonderful. Thank you Robbert.
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Excellent, thank you!
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ok so now I think I have to uninstall the AUR yabridge-bin 5.0.2 version and install the manjaro yabridge 5.0.3 from the official repositories, right? Because something was updated on manjaro and 5.0.2 doesn't work anymore
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