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Just to add an additional use case. I frequently work with:

1. Left Docker - Track Manager or Action List most commonly, sometimes a single fader, sometimes the FX Browser

2. Bottom Docker - Usually the Mixer or MIDI Editor, sometimes the FX Browser

3. Right Docker - always my master fader

So using the Default 6 theme or Smooth, there would ALWAYS some combination of light windows docked on screen with the darker TCP and/or MCP views in just about every single screenset. It's my normal method of working, not an exception. And when you've got the bright Track Manager or Action List docked left with the bright MIDI Editor, in an otherwise dark-ish theme, the change in contrast is a bit jarring. The first thing I did with Smooth was darken those windows. I just couldn't work that way in a laptop in a dark room.

I appreciate everything White Tie has done, but I think don't think those "Mixed Contrast" use-cases were well accounted for with Default 6. Maybe I'm the odd man out for working this way, but when you do, a theme needs to be consistently light (at which point eyes adjust, or monitor/room brightness is adjusted) or consistently dark. And I'd venture to guess that people used to Studio One, Sonar, and Cubase's more "one-window" type workflow probably work similarly. And the Mixed Contrast thing that results is tough to work with IMO.

Now, it's not a big deal because because the Theme Adjuster allows you to take care of this very easily (with a bit of trial and error) but the ideal theme would be consistent in it's appearance to avoid this type of stuff right out of the gate IMO. Would love to see Smooth get more consistent in that regard in 2.0, if it's a possibility, and if not, I'll just continue to what I've been doing and tweak it in Theme Adjuster (I just think you'd do a better job).
I will do my best to make a dark theme for those that need it. Would you be able to help? A list of the Theme tweaker entries to change would be very handy. I got lost after finding two of them (Window BG and Window List BG) :¬)

That would speed things up.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:39 AM   #1242
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I will do my best to make a dark theme for those that need it. Would you be able to help? A list of the Theme tweaker entries to change would be very handy. I got lost after finding two of them (Window BG and Window List BG) :¬)

That would speed things up.
I can send you a list later tonight. I wish I thought to save the one I kept in notepad during the trial and error phase. lol
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Everything can be found in theme element finder, select first position then use directional keys on keyboard to scroll.
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Everything can be found in theme element finder, select first position then use directional keys on keyboard to scroll.
That doesn't work on OSX, you have to select each one individually.

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I can send you a list later tonight. I wish I thought to save the one I kept in notepad during the trial and error phase. lol
Thank you!
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That doesn't work on OSX, you have to select each one individually.
Ouch!

If this color scheme works for You, I can copy it to smooth.
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List from the bottom
all from
window text
to
window background

MIDI piano pane background
MIDI list editor text
MIDI list editor grid lines
Midi list editor selected row
Midi list editor selected row (inactive)
Midi list editor selected row (secondary)
Midi list editor selected text
Midi list editor selected text (inactive)
Midi list editor selected text (secondary)

MIDi list editor background
MIDI editor ruler background

Media item background(odd tracks)
Main window/transport background
Main window 3D shadow
Main window 3D highlight

I think that's most of em if not all.
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Ouch!

If this color scheme works for You, I can copy it to smooth.
Thanks for the offer Odys - I'm already testing. Do you know what these are?

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List from the bottom
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window text
to
window background

MIDI piano pane background
MIDI list editor text
MIDI list editor grid lines
Midi list editor selected row
Midi list editor selected row (inactive)
Midi list editor selected row (secondary)
Midi list editor selected text
Midi list editor selected text (inactive)
Midi list editor selected text (secondary)

MIDi list editor background
MIDI editor ruler background

Media item background(odd tracks)
Main window/transport background
Main window 3D shadow
Main window 3D highlight

I think that's most of em if not all.
Fab, thanks! Play time...
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I don't have Mojave (and won't for some time) so cannot test dark mode. This hackintosh is on El Capitan, and it'll stay that way for the foreseeable as it's stable and running fine. Risky business updating the OS :¬)

What I may do is create a dark window theme for Smooth 2.0 (saved via the Theme Tweaker) which is just a reaperTheme file that accompanies the original.
I'm also running a Hackintosh, man I love using them! Is it a vanilla install? Updates should be fine if so. Anyway best not get sidetracked, I think a dark window theme or something similar to match the main grey Smooth theme would be good. It is especially bad on the FX/IO and Media Explorer windows personally (talking about all themes here). You can't theme the top bar of windows any other colour but you can obviously theme it dark with dark mode. However I've just found a Native Instruments effect plugin that crashes and it is due to dark mode. Thinking best switch to normal mode, sadly. Seems dark was the easiest way to consistently theme elements for me.
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List from the bottom
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window text
to
window background

MIDI piano pane background
MIDI list editor text
MIDI list editor grid lines
Midi list editor selected row
Midi list editor selected row (inactive)
Midi list editor selected row (secondary)
Midi list editor selected text
Midi list editor selected text (inactive)
Midi list editor selected text (secondary)

MIDi list editor background
MIDI editor ruler background

Media item background(odd tracks)
Main window/transport background
Main window 3D shadow
Main window 3D highlight

I think that's most of em if not all.
Beat me to it, thanks!
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I'm being stupid, can Odys/Funky link the 1-5 above with the list?

I'm changing things but nothing is happening?
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So using the Default 6 theme or Smooth, there would ALWAYS some combination of bright windows docked on screen with the darker TCP and/or MCP views in just about every single screenset. It's my normal method of working, not an exception. And when you've got the bright Track Manager or Action List docked left with the bright MIDI Editor, in an otherwise dark-ish theme, the change in contrast is a bit jarring.
Just wanted to say thanks for considering a dark version. I completely agree with Funkybot. And this has been an issue with Reaper themes in general, not limited to V6. It is really, really hard on the eyes and almost blinding if you work in what I would call "normal" studio lighting which is a little more on the minimal/relaxed side.
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Tip: write "text" in tweaker filter --> all tweakable font colors
Tip2: change text or whatever color one by one to pink until You found what You were looking for, then ctrl+ alt + up, ctrl + alt + down to reset theme
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I'm being stupid, can Odys/Funky link the 1-5 above with the list?

I'm changing things but nothing is happening?
4 - Media item background(odd tracks)
1 and 5 - window text, 1 bg - Window edit background
2 - unthemable (on windows)
3 - i think it needs some png
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I'm being stupid, can Odys/Funky link the 1-5 above with the list?

I'm changing things but nothing is happening?
#1 is Window Edit Background

#5 is Window Edit Text

I believe #2 and #3 can't be themed currently.
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Thanks for the offer Odys - I'm already testing. Do you know what these are?

Here is the standard default V6 theme without dark mode:




Here is the standard default V6 theme with dark mode:



So I think some of those areas you want to theme can't actually be changed other than light or dark depending on what mode is on?

NO3. is changed I think via:
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1 - Window Edit Background (search bar) is having no effect, and Window Edit Text doesn't exist / isn't listed in the tweaker
2 - Shame!
3 - I'll look, thanks
4 - Media item BG (odd) is done. How about the bright outline?
5- Window Text is done

Thanks for the help!
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1 - Window Edit Background (search bar) is having no effect, and Window Edit Text doesn't exist / isn't listed in the tweaker
2 - Shame!
3 - I'll look, thanks
4 - Media item BG (odd) is done. How about the bright outline?
5- Window Text is done

Thanks for the help!
That's gotta be a Windows/Mac thing then. Maybe it's controlled by the OS on Mac, and can be tweaked on Windows? Here's a screen cap from Windows.



Also, here's a tip I meant to post earlier: it helps to have a few windows as you make Theme Adjuster changes. Like have the Track manager open in the left docker, the action list floating somewhere else, the MIDI editor docked at the bottom, maybe the performance meter split off somewhere. Sometimes you'll change an edit window background color and not see a change, but notice that it effects those two boxes above the keyboard in the PRV. The more windows you have open as you tweak the theme, the fewer unexpected surprises.
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That's gotta be a Windows/Mac thing then. Maybe it's controlled by the OS on Mac, and can be tweaked on Windows? Here's a screen cap from Windows.



Also, here's a tip I meant to post earlier: it helps to have a few windows as you make Theme Adjuster changes. Like have the Track manager open in the left docker, the action list floating somewhere else, the MIDI editor docked at the bottom, maybe the performance meter split off somewhere. Sometimes you'll change an edit window background color and not see a change, but notice that it effects those two boxes above the keyboard in the PRV. The more windows you have open as you tweak the theme, the fewer unexpected surprises.
Yeah that's not working on OSX. Bug!

Just been doing that, had MIDI, Track and Media windows open :¬)
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Here is the standard default V6 theme without dark mode:




Here is the standard default V6 theme with dark mode:



So I think some of those areas you want to theme can't actually be changed other than light or dark depending on what mode is on?

NO3. is changed I think via:
gen_volbg_horz.png
gen_volbg_vert.png
Nice thanks. The search box etc is controlled via the OS, so it would still be dark if using dark mode.
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Nice thanks. The search box etc is controlled via the OS, so it would still be dark if using dark mode.
...whereas in Windows, it's in the Theme Adjuster. Just to further complicate things for you!

I'm sure one of us Windows folks could tweak a color for you and send you back the rtconfig or whatever.
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...whereas in Windows, it's in the Theme Adjuster. Just to further complicate things for you!

I'm sure one of us Windows folks could tweak a color for you and send you back the rtconfig or whatever.
Since it only works in Windows, I should be able to theme it just for that, as Mac will override with it's own behaviour anyway :¬)
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Is there a list of what in Theme Adjuster changes what's in the theme? I'm not a programmer and often get lost in the language of the Theme Adjuster. :-) I'm trying, for example, to change the brightness of the volume and pan readouts in the TCP. A chart would be amazing for this and the other available adjustments, if you happen to have one! I'm on Mac.
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Also, how do I enable the colored fader knobs the mixer?
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Also, how do I enable the colored fader knobs the mixer?
If you want to manually configure them for each track, just select the Mixer Layout for the fader cap color you want. If you want the colors of the caps to automatically match the color of your channels via a more automatic approach...

How do I get colored fader-caps layouts to automatically appear?
If you want to use the colored fader caps, a best practice approach is to use the SWS Autocolor/Icon/Layout extension. For instance, set the same shade of green used in Smooth for your drum tracks, then in the MCP Layout column of that screen, enter: 150%_A green (or whatever layout you want to use). Repeat for each color/layout. Then under options, make sure "Auto-Track Coloring" and 'Enable Auto Track Layout" are enabled. Now your tracks and mixer fader caps will automatically be colored accordingly.
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If you want to manually configure them for each track, just select the Mixer Layout for the fader cap color you want. If you want the colors of the caps to automatically match the color of your channels via a more automatic approach...

How do I get colored fader-caps layouts to automatically appear?
If you want to use the colored fader caps, a best practice approach is to use the SWS Autocolor/Icon/Layout extension. For instance, set the same shade of green used in Smooth for your drum tracks, then in the MCP Layout column of that screen, enter: 150%_A green (or whatever layout you want to use). Repeat for each color/layout. Then under options, make sure "Auto-Track Coloring" and 'Enable Auto Track Layout" are enabled. Now your tracks and mixer fader caps will automatically be colored accordingly.
Huh, interesting! OK, thank you.

As I mentioned in the above post, the Theme Adjuster in Reaper is, well, not what I would call simple to decipher. :-) Where would I adjust the color/brightness of the volume and pan value readouts in the TCP?
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If you want to manually configure them for each track, just select the Mixer Layout for the fader cap color you want. If you want the colors of the caps to automatically match the color of your channels via a more automatic approach...

How do I get colored fader-caps layouts to automatically appear?
If you want to use the colored fader caps, a best practice approach is to use the SWS Autocolor/Icon/Layout extension. For instance, set the same shade of green used in Smooth for your drum tracks, then in the MCP Layout column of that screen, enter: 150%_A green (or whatever layout you want to use). Repeat for each color/layout. Then under options, make sure "Auto-Track Coloring" and 'Enable Auto Track Layout" are enabled. Now your tracks and mixer fader caps will automatically be colored accordingly.
That's a great tip, need to add that to the FAQ still, thanks.

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Huh, interesting! OK, thank you.

As I mentioned in the above post, the Theme Adjuster in Reaper is, well, not what I would call simple to decipher. :-) Where would I adjust the color/brightness of the volume and pan value readouts in the TCP?
The Theme Adjuster is very simple compared to the alternative, WT did a great job on it! It's not an all encompassing editor for Reaper, it offers specific options for the user to change.

Changing something such as pan/volume colour is 'minutiae' and is done manually. You need to unpack the theme and edit rtconfig.txt. The lines you need to change are:

set tcp.pan.label.color [180 180 180]

That's RBG. Make it brighter with [200 200 200] or similar. Same for:

set tcp.volume.label.color [180 180 180]

This kind of thing has been covered in the forum many times, just search for more explicit instructions.
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That's a great tip, need to add that to the FAQ still, thanks.



The Theme Adjuster is very simple compared to the alternative, WT did a great job on it! It's not an all encompassing editor for Reaper, it offers specific options for the user to change.

Changing something such as pan/volume colour is 'minutiae' and is done manually. You need to unpack the theme and edit rtconfig.txt. The lines you need to change are:

set tcp.pan.label.color [180 180 180]

That's RBG. Make it brighter with [200 200 200] or similar. Same for:

set tcp.volume.label.color [180 180 180]

This kind of thing has been covered in the forum many times, just search for more explicit instructions.

Thank you.

I was confusing the simple Theme Adjustor with the very deep/complcateded line-by-line Reaper one.
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Is there a list of what in Theme Adjuster changes what's in the theme? I'm not a programmer and often get lost in the language of the Theme Adjuster. :-) I'm trying, for example, to change the brightness of the volume and pan readouts in the TCP. A chart would be amazing for this and the other available adjustments, if you happen to have one! I'm on Mac.
Reaper has a nifty tool for checking what each image or color does.
The colors are also highlighted in the theme tweaker itself.

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Reaper has a nifty tool for checking what each image or color does.
The colors are also highlighted in the theme tweaker itself.

Which theme is that? I love the Tron style backlit icons
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Reaper has a nifty tool for checking what each image or color does.
The colors are also highlighted in the theme tweaker itself.

Awesome - thanks!
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Awesome - thanks!
It is worth noting that the Theme Element Finder will not highlight any elements that are not currently in view. So you sometimes have to carry out that process a number of times with different windows/views visible.
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Thanks!

You can change the font via the Theme Tweaker (find via SHIFT + ?), type 'trans' into the filter to find it. Then save as new theme.

To change the size you need to open the theme and edit the rtconfig.
Sorry for all the questions -- this deep tweaking stuff is brand new to me.

What parameter in rtconfig is used to adjust the font size of the transport frames/bar position display? I looked and am at a loss.
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What parameter in rtconfig is used to adjust the font size of the transport frames/bar position display? I looked and am at a loss.
It's a bit complicated I'm afraid.

Whereas many elements have a font setting, the size of the frames/bar position display is dependent on the overall size of the status area.

Lines you need to look at are,

set trans.size

set trans.size.dockedheight

set trans.status


Without looking at the Smooth settings I couldn't really advise further. Hopefully b0se will be along soon with a more definitive answer.


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Oh, and by the way, this is my first encounter with this little conundrum:-

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=228934

I fully understand how it works now but at first this totally threw me.
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Thanks Ben :¬)

I tried about 5 different TCP faders, most looking more like the MCP version. The thing is, the MCP version is a much bigger area, meaning you can incorporate more design elements into it.

When I tried a black body with a silver inlay for example, it looked small/cramped/unoptimised. These silver indents worked the best as they stand out as clear as day without being distracting.
I hear ya mate. I'd love to somehow twist your arm on this though ... as the thin faders aren't very usable because they're too small to quickly grab - ie too much mouse precision required. So I'd take aesthetically a little cramped, but much more usable, larger TCP faders any day!

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I just kind of feel like the TCP faders should be rotated 90 degrees clockwise and they'd be perfect. They look like vertical fader caps on a horizontal fader to me. Or maybe a circular knob cap...

...if I'm being super picky. It's really not a big deal at all.

Thanks as usual b0se!
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:08 PM   #1278
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I tried about 5 different TCP faders, most looking more like the MCP version. The thing is, the MCP version is a much bigger area, meaning you can incorporate more design elements into it.

When I tried a black body with a silver inlay for example, it looked small/cramped/unoptimised. These silver indents worked the best as they stand out as clear as day without being distracting.
Hey b0se, I'm wondering if you might consider a silver fader alternative in the MCP as well. Even though the TCP one is very minimal it has a really clean look and I think it would be really great to have a slightly more detailed silver fader cap in the MCP to match (without the black outline). I have the TCP/Arrange on one screen and the MCP on another which are always displayed so having a similar aesthetic for silver MCP faders would be really great I think. Also, would be happy to donate more as well.

Feel free to completely ignore if it's too much of a pain in the ass lol. And thanks for all of the time and effort you've put in. You really have gone well out of your way here and it is much appreciated.

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Old 01-14-2020, 02:23 PM   #1279
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I second the request for a simple silver fader in the MCP. No pressure though,
would just be a good thing to have! Again, thanks for doing all this b0se! <3
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Old 01-14-2020, 03:58 PM   #1280
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OK, you guys win - I'll test another couple of TCP fader designs tomorrow :¬)
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