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11-08-2014, 07:14 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Shortcuts won't work when plugin is focused
I have setup shorcuts to toggle floating for each fx insert. But when the plugin window is focused Reaper won't respond to the shortcuts anymore. Is there a way to fix this?
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11-08-2014, 07:19 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Use a key modifier for shortcuts (ctrl+key, alt+key, shift won't work).
They will work even if plug-in is in focus. Unless it's a bridged
plug-in (in it's own window), than even that won't help.
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11-08-2014, 07:42 AM
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I see it only works with key modifiers. Thank you!
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11-08-2014, 12:29 PM
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Too quick... It doesn't work anymore. I have tried several shortcuts. When I adjust something in the plugin the shortcut works. but quickly showing and hiding it doesn't work.
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11-09-2014, 08:08 AM
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Does this have anything to do with it? Try unchecking it if it's checked.
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11-09-2014, 05:42 PM
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If you have some sort of midi controller you can map actions to its buttons and I think that will work.
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12-20-2014, 04:59 AM
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on osx (and propably something similar on win there is a utility called karabiner.
It lets you do all sort of keyboard remapping.
I reampped the keys i always need to function, no matter what window has focused to alt+key.
You can set it up so it switches back when you are entering text, and you can define remapping only for specific applications.
I mapped the capslock and tab keys to combined modifiers.
hitting strg once is mapped to escape. also very nice for closing floating windows.
This is done with an additional program by the same programmers called seil.
The best:
It even allows you to adress a second keyboard sperately!
Last edited by jrp; 12-20-2014 at 05:09 AM.
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12-20-2014, 06:29 AM
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#8
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Same experience here as OP.
10.9.5, Reaper 4.76-64bit.
As much i do love Reaper, the whole focus system in Reaper needs a drastic overhaul imho.
I don't want to use thirdparty keyboard mapping apps.
It's just ridiculous that, when plugin window opened, you have to first click in project window to make the shortcuts work.
And yes, i DO have "send all shortcuts to plugin bla bla" DISABLED.
This focus thang is one of the few things that i really hate about Reaper.
Why on earth doesn't this get fixed ?
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12-21-2014, 12:34 AM
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#9
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It's a royal PITA, although to be fair, this is a complicated and controversial topic, and e.g. C7 & C8 are even worse, as there are not even workarounds.
The best and most intuitive implementation I've seen yet was in C6.5 and earlier, ymmv.
Regarding Reaper, what I would like to see is an optional mode where no keys ever get stolen by any child windows, unless you explicitly activate a text field via mouse click or a special dedicated key, by confirming via return/enter you should be back to normal ...
I for one would not miss the current behaviour for a second.
Even better would be per-action focus options, if at all possible from a programmer's standpoint, there are already some related options, but not nearly enough.
Btw, having a plugin focused (e.g. for controllers or mousewheel-over) and still adressing the main window via keyboard is not a contradiction at all.
Reaper is all about intelligent and flexible solutions - focus, simultaneous editing of tracks and comping are not up to its otherwise high standards yet imho, ymmv.
High hopes for that elusive v5, although I'd reluctantly accept a perfect focus system in v4.783.02, too ...
ymmv,
Rhino
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10-21-2015, 06:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
Same experience here as OP.
10.9.5, Reaper 4.76-64bit.
As much i do love Reaper, the whole focus system in Reaper needs a drastic overhaul imho.
I don't want to use thirdparty keyboard mapping apps.
It's just ridiculous that, when plugin window opened, you have to first click in project window to make the shortcuts work.
And yes, i DO have "send all shortcuts to plugin bla bla" DISABLED.
This focus thang is one of the few things that i really hate about Reaper.
Why on earth doesn't this get fixed ?
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Bump for this post!
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10-21-2015, 06:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfRhino
It's a royal PITA, although to be fair, this is a complicated and controversial topic, and e.g. C7 & C8 are even worse, as there are not even workarounds.
The best and most intuitive implementation I've seen yet was in C6.5 and earlier, ymmv.
Regarding Reaper, what I would like to see is an optional mode where no keys ever get stolen by any child windows, unless you explicitly activate a text field via mouse click or a special dedicated key, by confirming via return/enter you should be back to normal ...
I for one would not miss the current behaviour for a second.
Even better would be per-action focus options, if at all possible from a programmer's standpoint, there are already some related options, but not nearly enough.
Btw, having a plugin focused (e.g. for controllers or mousewheel-over) and still adressing the main window via keyboard is not a contradiction at all.
Reaper is all about intelligent and flexible solutions - focus, simultaneous editing of tracks and comping are not up to its otherwise high standards yet imho, ymmv.
High hopes for that elusive v5, although I'd reluctantly accept a perfect focus system in v4.783.02, too ...
ymmv,
Rhino
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02-25-2016, 04:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
Same experience here as OP.
10.9.5, Reaper 4.76-64bit.
As much i do love Reaper, the whole focus system in Reaper needs a drastic overhaul imho.
I don't want to use thirdparty keyboard mapping apps.
It's just ridiculous that, when plugin window opened, you have to first click in project window to make the shortcuts work.
And yes, i DO have "send all shortcuts to plugin bla bla" DISABLED.
This focus thang is one of the few things that i really hate about Reaper.
Why on earth doesn't this get fixed ?
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Ok. Why still nothing about this thing??
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06-14-2016, 04:58 AM
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Major BUMP!!!
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06-14-2016, 05:42 AM
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Since this is such a long standing Reaper issue, for so many users,i wonder if a fix is simply undo-able for Cockos (?)
Although i can hardly believe that.
I can't recall having this "key stealing" issue ever in other DAW's..
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07-07-2016, 12:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
Since this is such a long standing Reaper issue, for so many users,i wonder if a fix is simply undo-able for Cockos (?)
Although i can hardly believe that.
I can't recall having this "key stealing" issue ever in other DAW's..
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At least Cubase shows not this behavior, keys keep on working despite editing FX. Very desirable fix.
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02-13-2017, 03:08 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2017
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Still no fix? come on humans. PLEASE HELP
Hey guys, i just got reaper like couple of months ago. Learned everything real quick and im in love with this bad girl! One thing i really hate is the fact that you have to always click on the main window for some hotkeys to work. For example when i click on my vst, i go thru my sounds and i wanna press Control R to record right away. Buh it doesn't work, I have to click on the main window first, then click record. It really pisses me off cuz it kills my music vibe. Please guys, i came to reaper from cubase and i wud say reaper is WAY better than cubase. But please tell me how to over come this ANNOYING problem.
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02-13-2017, 03:23 PM
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Welcome to the longstanding Club of "Reaper Is The Most Amazing DAW, But Please Fix
The Hotkeys Won't Work When FX Window Has Focus"
An issue that stands for years now.
No solution AFAIK, besides first having to mouse click on Main, as you mentioned.
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02-13-2017, 03:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
Welcome to the longstanding Club of "Reaper Is The Most Amazing DAW, But Please Fix
The Hotkeys Won't Work When FX Window Has Focus"
An issue that stands for years now.
No solution AFAIK, besides first having to mouse click on Main, as you mentioned.
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Thanks for the reply. I really wish there is away around this. As of now, this is the only thing that's stopping me from going ham on the composing part..!! its so annoying. Buh thanks for the reply brother!
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02-13-2017, 03:28 PM
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No Thanks, and i feel ya bro ..:0)
Maybe some day ...
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02-13-2017, 03:40 PM
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It's not a true!
Quote:
v5.25 - September 20 2016
+ FX: add option to ignore FX chain keyboard shortcuts and send keys to main window
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Go to FX chain->Options "Ignore Fx chain keyboard..."
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02-13-2017, 03:48 PM
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Ok, so totally missed that option, great and thx !
But .. can't find it, maybe i'm blind ..
Personallly, would like that option to be "globally" set in Reaper Preferences.
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02-13-2017, 03:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
It's not a true!
Go to FX chain->Options "Ignore Fx chain keyboard..."
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Hey so when i enable that under options in the fx window. i still cant record using my hot key(ctrl R). It works from the fx chain, buh if i have an actual vst loaded nd focused it wont work. I have to click back to the main window or Fx chain window, then only my hotkey works. I was just wondering if it can be done while your focused on the vst! sorry i mite not be explaining it properly.
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02-13-2017, 04:06 PM
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Your explanation is very clear, no worries.
Could you please tell me exactly what to do, to find the option "FX chain->Options "Ignore Fx chain keyboard..."
Still can't find that , grrrrr.
I want to test your issue here.
Thx in advance !
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02-13-2017, 04:27 PM
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Location: England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmey
I have setup shorcuts to toggle floating for each fx insert. But when the plugin window is focused Reaper won't respond to the shortcuts anymore. Is there a way to fix this?
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Unfloat the windows,because main window is loosing focus.
Try this img-something similar might help. =)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7W...ew?usp=sharing
There is an option action =Toggle always on top. >Might help also.
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02-13-2017, 04:31 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
Your explanation is very clear, no worries.
Could you please tell me exactly what to do, to find the option "FX chain->Options "Ignore Fx chain keyboard..."
Still can't find that , grrrrr.
I want to test your issue here.
Thx in advance !
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2.14 Page 41 in the manual... But nowhere to be found in REAPER?
Could be a Mac vs PC thingie....
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02-13-2017, 04:47 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
Your explanation is very clear, no worries.
Could you please tell me exactly what to do, to find the option "FX chain->Options "Ignore Fx chain keyboard..."
Still can't find that , grrrrr.
I want to test your issue here.
Thx in advance !
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Thanks, This is what i did, i don kno if its right. It still doesnt work tho
I attached a screenshot. Just click on the fx chain menu, one of the tap says options.
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02-13-2017, 04:54 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gajN
Thanks, This is what i did, i don kno if its right. It still doesnt work tho
I attached a screenshot. Just click on the fx chain menu, one of the tap says options.
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Not visible on the Mac??
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02-13-2017, 10:50 PM
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Human being with feelings
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"Custom: RECORD FOR GANJA
SWS/S&M: Focus main window (only valid within custom actions)
SWS: Transport: Record/stop
(works keeps vst window open)"
Yeah sure, but only if i get this to work lol.
Cause here's the deal,
I made custom action with which i want to open Virtual MIDI Keyboard window,
while a VSTi gui is opened and has focus.
Custom Action: (binded to key "K").
SWS/S&M: Focus main window (only valid within custom actions)
View: Show Virtual MIDI keyboard
Outcome:
Doesn't work ; i hit key K and Virtual MIDI Keyboard doesn't show up.
Then i opened the FX Chain Window, instead of the VST gui window, in which the VSTi is placed.
Then same thing: Hitting K doesn't open Virtual MIDI Keyboard.
Confusion 2.0 ..
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