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Old 08-16-2019, 08:27 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by adXok View Post
Well, keep using your dial phone then...




11 is > 5 for sure. It means that the note behind that 11 is and should be higher than the note behind 5 in the chord structure. Not the same notes (maybe the same note name) but definitely not the same tones. Notes from different "octaves" sharing the same note-names are not the same tones.

The post from coolbass shows again the disadvantages of the standard "notation language" and understanding the meaning of the original intention of the composer.
Note, note-name and tone are three different things.

Note G# is different than its note-name (not present in the standard notation), is different than its tone (in which "octave" range is it???)
This shows how foolish it is to discuss these things without musical meaning, context and understanding. When you discuss chords, you talk about harmony, not numbers without musical context. A chord symbol with both a b5 and #11 is never used, because it makes no sense. It also does not say in what octave these notes should be played. There are a lot of inversions possible. It just describes the chord harmony, not the order or octave these notes should be played in. You would never describe the same chord tone twice with a different number.
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