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Old 08-07-2019, 05:01 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Sambo Rouge View Post
Surely if its ambient --- it would be in the box --- the room shouldn't come into it.
Sure, but if you listen with speakers it could be boomy, and mostly due to the room.

A few thoughts and suggestions for KenB. Some of this has already been mentioned but needs reiterating because the cart has to go before the horse. IOW, certain solutions really wouldn't apply unless the things leading up to that point are covered.

What happens if you play, through the same chain including Reaper, other commercial ambient tracks that are sonically similar to yours? Through speakers? And also headphones?

What happens if you take your track and play it elsewhere?

Have to determine how much to blame on the track and how much on the speakers or room.

Some sounds/VSTIs get their big low end by a cranking up of the plugins whole low freq range with a wide band or even total tilting up of the entire low end below x hz. Sounds huge but instant boom when used in track. Put an extra eq fx on a VSTI that's ending up boomy and cut out or notch sharply between 80hz and all the way down, and sweep the frequency to hear the results to find out where it takes out lows that you need and where it takes out lows that you don't. Don't be shy about tamping down the low-low end of an instrument that is supplying bottom because once it gets compressed and/or limited, either in the track itself or the master, you may not miss it at all.

Also, play your track through the speakers and eq a freq below 80hz down and up, and move the freq around. Does it seem as if adding 2 db there makes it sound as if you've added 6 db? That would be a sign your room is resonating sympathetically to that area. If so, that makes it hard to make good judgments about how much low end you should have.

One thing to know is that ever since dynamic eqs, where you could raise a freq way up but then have it pushed back down if it exceeded a certain level, became readily available to DAW users and not just an expensive mastering tool, genres like ambient started using them all over the place. Same effect as using a multi band limiter after an eq. Imagine boosting a singer at 8khz because it made it overall better, and then not only not boosting at sibilant parts but pushing the 8khz down when it exceeded a threshold. That's what some big low end synth sounds get, but with a low eq boost that gets pushed down when it detects will cross over into boominess and fixes it. So if you're comparing your track's low end to a highly produced track, this might be something you're competing with. (?)
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