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issueid=169 06-18-2009 12:34 PM
Human being with feelings
Less reduntant timeline measures.beats numbering (like in MIDI Editor)
Main timeline measures.beats numbering similar to the MIDI Editor

The main measures.beats timeline can become clearer and more musical if it behaved more like the MIDI Editor timeline: showing measures only, or measures and beats depending on the zoom level. Currently, there's reduntant numbering in the form of x.x.00 independent of the zoom level.

detailed discussion here: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=36039

and here: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=512734

and... here: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=58125

As a first step, I would like the main timeline to behave like the ME timeline. I would personally appreciate some extra control on how to differentiate the whole measure numbers (e.g. 1, 2, 3) from the subdivisions (1.2, 1.3, 1.4 etc...)

For example: 1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 2, 2.2, 2.3 etc...

It could be for example (optionaly) bold font or different color or different size etc...

These are subtle visual+musical enhancements which signify and differentiate the importance of measures and their subdivision. At the same time, it looks less technical by having the excess 00s removed when not needed.
Issue Details
Issue Type Elevated FR
Project Deprecated REAPER issue tracker
Category GUI and graphics
Status Popular Request
Priority 8
Suggested Version 3.03
Implemented Version (none)
Users who would use this feature 128
Users who would not use this feature 1
Assigned Users (none)
Tags (none)

06-18-2009 12:47 PM
Human being with feelings
Originally Posted by Guido View Post
You are right. In the way I work I really dont need to see x.1.00 when working in a more zoomed out mode. I like the way the midi editor works..maybe there could be one more option for timeline display called "Measures"


Thx for reading this
06-18-2009 07:11 PM
Human being with feelings
Great idea, but I'd like to see yet another mode (display beats only):

- Really simple numbering of beats (as in FL Studio) in the MIDI editor and in the arranger timeline (no measures,just beats): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,... instead of 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, ...
06-19-2009 03:03 AM
Human being with feelings
Synth, what if you're zoomed in? Don't you want to see the measure subdivisions? The MIDI Editor currently displays whole measures only (1, 2, 3... ) when you're zoomed out.
06-19-2009 05:15 AM
Human being with feelings
Evan:I'm talking about a simplified beats only mode (no measures and/or centibeats/ticks) with alternate shading for each odd/even measure in the arranger and the piano roll view :)
06-19-2009 06:39 AM
Human being with feelings
New screenshot: Now with improved graphics :)

07-14-2009 02:14 PM
Human being with feelings
Here's another screenshot concept...

Subtle emphasis on the start of each measure in the timeline... (Makes the stream of numbers that bit easier to read.)

url: http://shup.com/Shup/186486/starofeachmeasure.jpg
09-08-2009 02:35 PM
Human being with feelings

my insert:

the current playlist ruler is kinda busy for my eyes and useless for me.
the measures/beats of the midi looks much better and practical to me...

I would like to have exactly the same ruler for the playlist like in the piano roll..


so it will be without the x.1.00 for each start of a beat, leave only the X (complete number-start of a beat) in bold/bigger text like in the pianoroll...


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