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issueid=1364 10-18-2009 10:12 PM
Human being with feelings
item colors vs mute - suspend all item colors when muted!
suspend item colors when item/track muted.

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This extremely clutters when I see the colors of muted items...

suspending all item colors (background, peaks, label...w/e) + darkening it, will make the playlist much clealer in big project (even in small project).


if you can let the user choose the color for muted items it will be fine too.
Issue Details
Issue Type Feature Request
Project Deprecated REAPER issue tracker
Category GUI and graphics
Status Suggested
Priority 2
Suggested Version 3.12
Implemented Version (none)
Users who would use this feature 30
Users who would not use this feature 2
Assigned Users (none)
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10-19-2009 01:01 AM
-blänk-
 
Is there a discussion thread about this?

I'd still like another approach best (also for the take system):



Just suspending color would not help with non-colored items and the current darkening method restricts quite a lot when theming item bg.png's. EG items with (bright to dark) gradients don't show nicely which take is active.
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10-19-2009 01:14 AM
Human being with feelings
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gofer
Just suspending color would not help with non-colored items and the current darkening method restricts quite a lot when theming item bg.png's. EG items with (bright to dark) gradients don't show nicely which take is active.
it is not "just suspending color..", suspending color is the first thing that needs to be done.

colored muted items can be extremel tricky...


btw, I think that your idea will make the playlist look even more busy...
muted -> no sound = no colors...= no attention.
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10-19-2009 01:42 AM
-blänk-
 
Please open a thread for this.
IMO muted items should keep custom color. I use those colors to identify items that need certain maintenance. I might mute them in the meantime but still want to use my color code. The stripes in my mockup are thicker as need be (because of lazy mocking). Logic PC used these stripes and it never looked too busy to me. Muted items look sort of "shaded" without losing their color info (still using the exact(!) same color as their unmuted cousins).
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10-19-2009 05:25 AM
Human being with feelings
 
I'm pretty sure that cockos will make that optional anyway.
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10-19-2009 07:14 AM
Human being with feelings
 
Check this out..

[EDIT - Watch below the example by Darkstar...)
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10-21-2009 07:44 AM
Super Moderator (no feelings)
 
There is a discussion thread now: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=392150
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10-21-2009 08:45 AM
Human being with feelings
 
I've commented on the discussion, and I want (as always) as many options as possible. But I'm not going to vote on this issue because it's written too explicitly, asking for something that I don't exactly want.

I think a more useful/universal FR would be something like "more theme options for muted items and muted tracks".
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05-02-2010 01:19 AM
Human being with feelings
 
Important post by darkstar (to make this FR much more clear) :

This will be just great:

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar View Post
I agree that making muted clips (or tracks) more distinct needs some attention but turning the muted clips into dark-grey will not suit every one.

My thought is that the muted clips should "fade" into the track background. Here are three mock-ups with the muted clips overlaid by incrreasing amounts of the track background colour:

Some overlay:
[img]http://img23.**************/img23/6310/muted03.png[/img]

More overlay:
[img]http://img32.**************/img32/262/muted04.png[/img]

Even more overlay:
[img]http://img30.**************/img30/4411/muted05.png[/img]

This can be achieved by one additional Theme preference:
-- Mute Fill mode (Normal, Add, Dodge, overlay etc)

You can see that the muted clips gradually disappear. Muting uses the track background colour and applies the Fill mode. These will allow a lot of flexibility in the different themes.

Muting a track would apply the Mute Fill mode along the whole track.
Discussion Thread: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=392150
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