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08-01-2009 01:10 PM | ||
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Maybe someone can change the title of this request to "Integrated delay on each track".
If my request is still unclear: Cubase/Nuendo style per track delay on the TCP. Here another request for delays in the routing dialog for sends too: http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=756 |
08-03-2009 07:53 AM | |||
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You could use track templates with a delay plugin of your choice having the most importable delay controls for tweaking shown on the mixer strip, you know :)
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08-04-2009 12:37 AM | ||
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IMO this is so basic, it needs to be integrated without plugins. Basic as the "Proper Stereo Panning" request: http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=161
Besides that I don't know of a single plugin which has all the requested features. Even if there is one -> I still would like to have the delay input field right on the track without opening plugin windows! |
08-04-2009 03:46 AM | ||
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I find this an interesting request mostly for doubling purposes.
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08-04-2009 04:05 AM | |||
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This is fairly specialized feature that a great deal of folks won't need.
Thus such a parameter should be hidden by default IMO. Great idea for anyone with external and internal gear that requires delays. |
08-04-2009 04:25 AM | ||
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Sure, maybe not everyone would use this feature but I know I would! I record drums and having 8 mics to record, I find it's awesome to be able to shift the tracks back and forth in terms of samples, in order to phase align everything without moving them manually with the mouse. Once I have found out the relation between the tracks in terms of samples, I can just type it in and be done, even if I re-record stuff. This could also be saved as a track template for future use and just recalled when I set my drums up again (if I was to use the exact same mic positions that is). |
08-04-2009 05:40 AM | |||
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E.g. when side-chaining, I draw trigger notes on grid, but have the whole track delayed for -10ms, so that the side-chain compressor is in effect on beat, but has a smooth 10ms attack time prior to beat. A lot easier to have MIDI events snapped to grid, and better than delaying all other tracks just for this IMO. Some compressors just don't have a look-ahead function. |
08-04-2009 07:45 AM | |||
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this feature would help multi-mic guitar sessions a lot !
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08-05-2009 12:53 AM | ||
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Can plugin " JS: Delay/time adjustment " do the job?
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08-18-2009 05:13 PM | ||
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This feature is crucial for phase correction. Sure, you can turn off snapping and slide the clips, but that creates problems for future editing since the transients are no longer aligned. Using track delays allows phase alignment AND dead-on lined-up editing of tracks from a multi-mic session. Even if it's tucked into a dialog and not on the main display, it should still be there somewhere.
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08-19-2009 06:14 AM | |||
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I voted yes, but this should be hidden by default (on MCP/TCP) and should be a right-click option, much like quantize record settings are.
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08-21-2009 05:27 PM | |||
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if you work with programmed drums for example, say you have a bassdrum (on 1,2,3,4) and a snare (on 2+4)... you`d quantize both to grid, but the snare, whenever it hits the 2 and the 4 simultanesly with the bassdrum doesn`t audibly fit to the bassdrum, it just doesn`t sound good when they`re playing together ... now what you do to get instant satisfsction, is, you move the snare by ms or samples back or forth, until you hear fit, and that stays so for the whole project, as the quantizing isn`t affected ... this is a _very_ powerful, often overlooked and very underesthimated feature in general, as it affects the mix ... how often do you find yourself ending up with a mix that just won`t sound right, although you`ve done everything right? that might be the solution ... i saw a lot of engineers twisting a compressor or an eq to nuts just to get it sound right, but often you just don`t need to grab an eq or a compresor or both to make it sound good, just use the track delay until it sounds good, so the eq and compressors don`t have to be overabused ... tming is essential not only for groove, but also for frequency allignment of the tracks you have in your project, which greatly affects the sound of course ... the less you have to do with eq`s and compressors to _fix_ something, the better ... so yes, +1billion for a trackbased delay, adjustable user selectable in ms or in samples ... |
08-21-2009 05:30 PM | |||
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it`s just basic and should be there in _every_ pro-considered sequencer. |
08-21-2009 05:36 PM | |||
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it`s a nice workaround, until the fature is there, imo ... :) |
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09-10-2009 10:20 AM | |||
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For midi this is very important; a lot of samplebanks need 'predelay' to shift them some milliseconds in advance. FI classical instruments need some time to 'rise', double basses can take up to 100 milliseconds to deliver their fundamentals. With a predelay you can keep those midinotes on grid.
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09-12-2009 01:34 PM | |||
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I agree. It is helpful for instruments with slow attacks. Though, "JS: Delay/time adjustment" is suitable for this purpose too.
BTW, how time adjustment plug-in works? Why don't we get huge amount of latency with negative delay times? |
09-12-2009 01:40 PM | ||
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09-12-2009 10:53 PM | |||
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absolutely have it hidden by default.
tho i voted yes too. if you want it globally shown per track, put a "show track delay [when space permits] on the mixer right click along with all other gui choices like sends and inserts and param knobs have a right click to show choice now. |
09-13-2009 01:24 AM | |||
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I have been missing this FR.
"JS: Delay/time adjustment" doesn't work with midi tracks. Delay adjustment would be very needed for slow attack instruments. cheers |
09-13-2009 05:30 AM | ||
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this is a no brainer for a serious DAW.
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09-13-2009 05:57 AM | |||
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Agreed +1000000, my realtime quantize plugin screams in need of having this feature built-in :)
- Mario |
09-13-2009 07:52 AM | ||
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this would be a light version of a channel strip.
next time it will be a hi-pass filter fr and so on... it would be better a new version of "JS: Delay/time adjustment" that would work in both audio and midi. plugins are always better 'cause don't use cpu when not loaded and don't force one user to work in the same way of another one. |
09-13-2009 08:46 AM | |||
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When it comes to mixing, track delay is as fundamental as stereo panning. That's why it is integrated in many major DAWs.
Personally, I use integrated track delay control (in another DAW) more often than integrated pan control, because panning is more sophisticated fx and sometimes it's better to handle it with a plugin. And properly implemented it won't use CPU when set to zero. |
09-13-2009 10:57 AM | |||
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Track delay is a simple timing offset for media streaming, similar to manual shifting of your media items back/forward. And it should not use any cpu resources. Delay fx is a different thing. That's how I have understood it. But correct me if I'm wrong.
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09-13-2009 05:37 PM | |||
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at the meantime you may want to use that
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10-10-2009 03:09 PM | ||
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Great idea, would make haas mixing techniques easier
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01-31-2010 02:43 PM | ||
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there needs to be a way of doing this in the plugin chain as well, for plugins which report the wrong latency for whatever reason. Redline eq is one
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