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issueid=1112 09-01-2009 09:52 PM
Human being with feelings
Track/FX = instant crash

Just gave reaper a shot. 30 seconds into my experience, it crashed.

I recorded a file, went to the track, selected the FX button (CRASH).

this happened twice and corrupted some preference so I couldn't open it again until I trashed reaper app support. Tried taking all my vsts out of the VST folder. same deal


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Process: REAPER [11140]
Path: /Applications/REAPER3104_i386/REAPER.app/Contents/MacOS/REAPER
Identifier: com.cockos.reaper
Version: ??? (3.104)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [72]

Date/Time: 2009-09-01 21:48:01.924 -0700
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L30)
Report Version: 6
Anonymous UUID: 5938B37C-8AC0-41E3-A491-B95D7D85CD25

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.cockos.reaper 0x002f628c AU_UpdateCache() + 620

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Issue Details
Issue Type Closed Issue
Project Deprecated REAPER issue tracker
Category Stability
Status Fixed
Priority 3
Affected Version 3.102
Closed Version 3.103
Yes votes 0
No votes 0
Assigned Users (none)
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09-01-2009 09:59 PM
Administrator
 
It looks like it's crashing while validating AU plugins. I don't think this will be something we can reproduce/fix unless you are able to narrow it down to a particular plugin. Though we certainly know that OSX Reaper has compatibility problems with many AU plugins.
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09-01-2009 10:02 PM
Administrator
 
Can you provide a list of AUs installed on your system? These are located in both /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components and ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components
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09-01-2009 10:37 PM
Human being with feelings
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Can you provide a list of AUs installed on your system? These are located in both /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components and ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components
At the diner . Back in a few hours. Probably some random pluggo
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09-02-2009 01:59 AM
Human being with feelings
 
Went into my admin account which is almost entirely untouched. completely emptied the HAL,Component, and VST folders. same deal, same crashed thread.

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.cockos.reaper 0x002f628c AU_UpdateCache() + 620



looks like this guy has it too.: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=29021
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09-02-2009 05:21 AM
Administrator
 
It's possible your reaper-auplugins.ini file is corrupted (because Reaper crashed while writing it) -- could you try renaming that file (so Reaper won't find it)? If Reaper does then start, could you please post the bad reaper-auplugins.ini file here? Thanks.
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09-02-2009 08:51 AM
Human being with feelings
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
It's possible your reaper-auplugins.ini file is corrupted (because Reaper crashed while writing it) -- could you try renaming that file (so Reaper won't find it)? If Reaper does then start, could you please post the bad reaper-auplugins.ini file here? Thanks.
it's the reaper.ini file and even if I change the text in it back to the way it was after I opened reaper but before it crashed, reaper still doesn't load
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09-02-2009 08:52 AM
Human being with feelings
 
be honest is this typical? I haven't even used this program 2 minutes!
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09-02-2009 08:58 AM
Human being with feelings
 
Hi EstataeMatt - I don't think your experience is typical, I've been using Reaper on mac for about a year and I've never had this problem (or any problem that severe!) ...
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09-02-2009 09:32 AM
Administrator
 
Do you have a reaper-auplugins.ini file? That file is written while Reaper is scanning AU plugins for validation, if one crashes during validation, the file might have been corrupted.

Reaper OSX has known problems with plugin compatibility, but crashing instantly on load is not typical.
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09-02-2009 12:40 PM
Human being with feelings
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Do you have a reaper-auplugins.ini file? That file is written while Reaper is scanning AU plugins for validation, if one crashes during validation, the file might have been corrupted.

Reaper OSX has known problems with plugin compatibility, but crashing instantly on load is not typical.
I'll be clear here. there are two seperate crashes both of which report
Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.cockos.reaper 0x002f628c AU_UpdateCache() + 620


1) delete application support/REAPER just to be sure
2) launch reaper
3) command T
4) click FX button on that track in the mixer section of the main window
5) CRASH (usually takes 500-1000 ms so it must be in a low priority thread)
6) try and open reaper back up
7) splash screen gets to "initializing application"
8) CRASH
9) delete everything other than reaper.ini inside appsupprt/reaper
10) splash screen stays up until "initializing application" and WHAM!
11) delete reaper.ini from appsupport/reaper
12) reaper opens fine.
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09-02-2009 12:50 PM
Human being with feelings
 
IF I REMOVE THE LINE fxadd_vis=1 from reaper.ini , reaper loads fine but has the same problem


REAPER.ini after load
(currently I see a dialog that says "you have not selected an audio device" and the splash screen is still up.

[REAPER]
dockheight=273
mixwnd_vis=1
mixwnd_x=0
mixwnd_y=0
mixwnd_w=0
mixwnd_h=330
mixwnd_dock=1
dock_vis=0



--------------------------

after closing the "about reaper please register blah blah blah thing"

[REAPER]
dockheight=273
mixwnd_vis=1
mixwnd_x=0
mixwnd_y=0
mixwnd_w=0
mixwnd_h=330
mixwnd_dock=1
dock_vis=1

[verchk]
lastt=1251920887

[nag]
nag=F7CB9E4A6ADE67A10A7450CE0F6096EB3B217CFC4A31A8 E05D



----------------------------------
after inserting a new track

[REAPER]
dockheight=273
mixwnd_vis=1
mixwnd_x=0
mixwnd_y=0
mixwnd_w=0
mixwnd_h=330
mixwnd_dock=1
dock_vis=1
hasrecentsec=1

[verchk]
lastt=1251920887

[nag]
nag=F7CB9E4A6ADE67A10A7450CE0F6096EB3B217CFC4A31A8 E05D

-------
after selecting FX in my newly made track and having a nice crash


[REAPER]
dockheight=273
mixwnd_vis=1
mixwnd_x=0
mixwnd_y=0
mixwnd_w=0
mixwnd_h=330
mixwnd_dock=1
dock_vis=1
hasrecentsec=1
fxadd_vis=1

[verchk]
lastt=1251920887

[nag]
nag=F7CB9E4A6ADE67A10A7450CE0F6096EB3B217CFC4A31A8 E05D
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09-02-2009 01:32 PM
Human being with feelings
 
Hi EstateMatt - the file Schwa is looking for lives in ~/Library/Application Support/Reaper and is called: 'reaper-aupligins.ini'
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09-02-2009 02:37 PM
Human being with feelings
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by semiquaver
Hi EstateMatt - the file Schwa is looking for lives in ~/Library/Application Support/Reaper and is called: 'reaper-aupligins.ini'
Quote:
Originally Posted by semiquaver
Hi EstateMatt - the file Schwa is looking for lives in ~/Library/Application Support/Reaper and is called: 'reaper-aupligins.ini'
oooook WEIRDNESS ABOUND.


first of all, reaper doesn't create auplugins.ini until I hit that FX button. More importantly, After it crashes and I open up the file, its got plugins in there that only (as far I or command F or spotlight can tell) are in an "unused plugins" folder on my desktop. Where the hell could it be finding these files? is there a ktext with a list of plugins somewhere or something?

again to be clear, MacHD/Library/audio/plugins has nothing in it, and Me/Library/Audio/plugins has nothing in it

W T F ?


heres the file:

----
[auplugins]
Magnus @ Smartelectronix: Ambience=<!inst>
soundhack: +decimate=<!inst>
Voxengo: PHA-979=<!inst>
Voxengo: Stereo Touch=<!inst>
Voxengo: Voxformer=<!inst>
Yohng: W1=<!inst>
Voxengo: Beeper=<!inst>
Voxengo: MSED=<!inst>
SlimSlowSlider: C3 Multi Band Compressor 1.2=<!inst>
Voxengo: LF Max Punch=<!inst>
Voxengo: Latency Delay=<!inst>
Voxengo: Crunchessor=<!inst>
Pluggo: HF Ring Mod=<!inst>
Pluggo: Average Injector=<!inst>
Pluggo: Generic Effect=<!inst>
Pluggo: Chamberverb=<!inst>
Pluggo: Resonation=<!inst>
Pluggo: Jet=<!inst>
VST: DRECEIVE R8=<!inst>
Pluggo: Feedback Network=<!inst>
Pluggo: FilterTaps=<!inst>
Pluggo: Spectral Filter=<!inst>
Pluggo: Nebula=<!inst>
Pluggo: Resosweep=<!inst>
Pluggo: Limi=<!inst>
VST: Squid-Delay=<!inst>
VST: Squid-Delay Mini=<!inst>
IK Multimedia: AmpegSVXUNO=<!inst>
Bram @ Smartelectronix: Bouncy=<!inst>
Sound Consulting: Bad Cable=<!inst>
Expert Sleepers: Buffer Delay=<!inst>
Bram @ Smartelectronix: Crazy Ivan=<!inst>
TAL-Togu Audio Line: Chorus-60-AU-Effect=<!inst>
mda: Combo=<!inst>
Teragon Audio: Convolver2=<!inst>
Lowcoders & Bitplant: Kingdubby Dub Delay=<!inst>
Teragon Audio: DualComp=<!inst>
Andrew Garber:Warp Drive AU=<!inst>
mda: Dynamics=<!inst>
Destroy FX: EQ Sync=<!inst>
Lernvall Audio: LAConvolver=<!inst>
TAL-Togu Audio Line: Tal-Flanger-AU-Effect=<!inst>
GSi:GS-201=<!inst>
Bram @ Smartelectronix: SupaTrigga=<!inst>
Ten by Ten: GWS RanPan=<!inst>
jackosx.com: JACK-insert=<!inst>
Dreampoint: Freeverb3=<!inst>
KResearch: KR-Reverb FS=<!inst>
Koen Tanghe @ Smartelectronix: KTGranulator=<!inst>
AcousModules: SimpleConvo88X_multi=<!inst>
MusicUnfolding: xTrem=<!inst>
Expert Sleepers: Multitap Delay=<!inst>
MusicUnfolding: MU xEQ=<!inst>
Prosoniq: NorthPole=<!inst>
iZotope: Ozone 3=<!inst>
Audio Damage: FuzzPlus2=<!inst>
Expert Sleepers: Phaser=<!inst>
TAL-Togu Audio Line: Tal-Phaser-60-AU-Effect=<!inst>
Vacuumsound: Poor Plate=<!inst>
Audio Damage: PulseModulator=<!inst>
QuikQuak: RaySpace=<!inst>
Vacuumsound: RIAA=<!inst>
SonicBirth: 20 Bands Eq=<!inst>
SonicBirth: Multiband scraper=<!inst>
SlimSlowSlider: Side Chain Compressor=<!inst>
SPL: SPL Free Ranger=<!inst>
SonicBirth: Effect design=<!inst>
UR: Buff rice=<!inst>
SonicBirth: Convolution reverb mono=<!inst>
SonicBirth: Convolution reverb stereo=<!inst>
SonicBirth: DC Blocker=<!inst>
SonicBirth: Graphic Equalizer=<!inst>
SonicBirth: Hum remover=<!inst>
SonicBirth: Multiband freeverb=<!inst>
SonicBirth: Simple reverb=<!inst>
Audio Damage: RoughRider=<!inst>
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09-02-2009 06:59 PM
Administrator
 
The system must keep a cache of all the installed AUs. That ini file does look normal. There's a possible bug in the cache reading that we'll fix for the next release, maybe that bug is triggering a problem with one of your AUs. Hopefully the fix will sort your problem.
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09-02-2009 07:56 PM
Human being with feelings
 
ditched
com.apple.Components2.LocalCache.AudioComponents
com.apple.audio.DeviceSettings.plist
com.apple.audio.SystemSettings.plist
com.apple.audiounits.cache

now loads


trying to find culprit
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09-02-2009 07:58 PM
Administrator
 
EstateMatt, there may not be any point in you spending time on this -- the next prerelease build (hopefully soon) may fix the problem.
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09-02-2009 08:04 PM
Human being with feelings
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
EstateMatt, there may not be any point in you spending time on this -- the next prerelease build (hopefully soon) may fix the problem.

no worries. I've got all my plugs back in the folder with no problem. So I guess one of those four files were the culprit. should add that to the knowledge bank
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