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jm duchenne 08-15-2018 10:06 PM

Multichannel tools... too.
 
Hi,

Since this forum is not limited (I hope) to ambisonics, here is a list of multichannel tools that can work inside or together with Reaper.
Most of them are devoted to the classical surround spatial formats (including Auro-3D), but there is also a number that can work with any speaker system up to 64 channels.


Multichannel plugins :

Acon Digital : Restoration Suite, reverberation and various effects, 8 channels
https://acondigital.com/

Acousmodules : panners, effects, instruments and utilities, up to 64 channels
http://acousmodules.free.fr/

Anymix : panner 7.1
http://www.iosono-sound.com/vstaax-plug-ins/

AudioEase Altiverb : convolution up to 7.1
http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Altiv...iverbMain.html
Indoor : 3D convolution, up to 9.1 (and 3rd order ambisonics)
http://www.audioease.com/indoor/

Auro-3D : panners up to 13.1
http://www.auro-3d.com/buy/

Doppler and Air : up to 9.1 (and 3rd order ambisonics)
http://www.soundparticles.com/dopplerair.html

Elastic Pitch : 8 channels
http://products.zplane.de/index.php?page=elastiquepitch

Exponential Audio : reverberations, up to 9.1
http://www.exponentialaudio.com/

Flux Mastering Pack :
http://www.fluxhome.com/

GRM-Tools : various effects
http://www.inagrm.com/grmtools
INA-GRM SPaceFilter and SpaceGrain : up to 32 channels
http://store.inagrm.com/grm-tools-3/...ls-spaces.html

MCFX : Delay, Filters, up to 64 channels
http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/?p=1910

Melda-Productions : various effects and utilities, 8 channels
http://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins/effects.php

PaulStretch 3 VST : 8 channels
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewt...p?f=6&t=496544

SIR StandardEQ : 8 channels EQ
http://www.siraudiotools.com/StandardEQ.php
Butterfly : 16 channels convolution
http://www.siraudiotools.com/Butterfly.php

SpatGris : 16 channels 2D panner
http://www.iact.umontreal.ca/site/?page_id=1091

SoundStage :
http://www.audioresearchlabs.com/soundstage/

Spaces : 2D panner up to 64 channels
http://store.inagrm.com/grm-tools-3/...ls-spaces.html

Spatial Audio Designer : panner, up to 22.2
http://newaudiotechnology.com/en/pro...udio-designer/

Unveil : de-reverberation, 8 channels
https://www.zynaptiq.com/unveil/

U-He Uhbik : various effects, 8 channels
http://www.uhbik.com/index.php?item=surround

Virsyn : Reflect 12 channels reverberation, Prism 6 channels pitch shifter
http://www.virsyn.de/en/E_Products/E...e_reflect.html

Voxengo : various effects, 8 channels
http://www.voxengo.com/
PristineSpace, 8 channels convolution
https://www.voxengo.com/product/pspace/

Zephyr : 16 channels reverberation (and 3rd order ambisonics)
https://nuspaceaudio.com/2018/01/22/...rround-reverb/



Standalone :

Flux Spat Revolution : panner and reverberation up to 64 channels (and 7th order ambisonics)
https://fluxhome.com/project/spat-revolution/

Hourglass : granular processing, up to 64 channels
https://xenakios.wordpress.com/2016/...ith-hourglass/

IRCAM Panoramix : panner and reverberation up to 64 channels (and 7th order ambisonics)
http://forumnet.ircam.fr/fr/produit/panoramix/

Mammut : spectral processing
http://www.dontcrack.com/freeware/do...ftware/Mammut/

PaulStretch 3 : up to 32 channels
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewt...9c78&start=330

ServerGris : panner up to 128 channels
https://github.com/GRIS-UdeM/ServerGRIS

SoundGrain : granular processing, 16 channels ?
http://ajaxsoundstudio.com/software/soundgrain/

SoundParticles : up to 32 channels (and 3rd order ambisonics)
http://www.sound-particles.com/whatis.html

ReaDave 08-15-2018 11:03 PM

That's a really good list JM!

This section is certainly not limited to Ambisonics but the idea is to keep things primarily focussed on any format that is true 3D or can work in conjunction with 3D formats.

5.1, 7.1 and such formats are really 2D (width and depth) but some of the tools are definitely useful for adding such material to a 3D format so discussion in that context, IMHO, is valuable here.

The trend these days seems to be heading away from traditional surround formats such as 5.1 with the big players such as Dolby pushing object based formats with full 3D capability.
Clearly, 5.1, 7.1 etc isn't going away any time soon though. The average Joe who has an interest in home theatre for example probably has a difficult enough time with the extra speakers these formats require and the thought of configuring a home setup with Dolby Atmos would probably be too daunting.

Even so, those of us actually creating content now have many options for full 3D and it really isn't that much more involved than doing a 5.1 mix in most cases. I personally have no desire to go back to mixing in 5.1 or stereo now that I have a solid Ambisonic workflow that is fully backwards compatible.

jm duchenne 08-15-2018 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReaDave (Post 2023711)
Even so, those of us actually creating content now have many options for full 3D and it really isn't that much more involved than doing a 5.1 mix in most cases. I personally have no desire to go back to mixing in 5.1 or stereo now that I have a solid Ambisonic workflow that is fully backwards compatible.

I cannot agree more with you ;-)
http://sonsdanslair.free.fr/l.acousmonef-eng.htm

And what is wonderful with Reaper (and the ReaSurround) is that it is not limited to surround or even standard "3D audio" (like, for example... Protools ?) but allows to create what you whish inside its 64 channels busses.
Having worked with so much constraints during the past 30 years, I thanks Justin & Co nearly every day ! (well, Jeff McClintock for Synthedit too...)

ReaDave 08-16-2018 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm duchenne (Post 2023720)

That's a fantastic space you have and great array of speakers and amplifiers. I'd love to hear it in person.

I noticed you mentioned Pierre Schaeffer and Musique Concrète. I know one of my greatest influences musically, Jean-Michel Jarre has been strongly inspired by Pierre Schaeffer too.
Looks like we have more than just a common interest in 3D audio in common JM. :cool:

Xenakios 09-03-2018 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm duchenne (Post 2023697)

Hourglass : granular processing, up to 64 channels
https://xenakios.wordpress.com/2016/...ith-hourglass/

Sadly the multichannel capable version of HourGlass was never publicly released. :(

jm duchenne 09-05-2018 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenakios (Post 2030608)
Sadly the multichannel capable version of HourGlass was never publicly released. :(

Oh.. you are right of course, and it is sad since even in its "unfinished" state it can do some irreplaceable things !

jm duchenne 09-13-2018 09:33 PM

Izotope RX7 now supports up to Dolby Atmos 7.1.2 :
https://www.izotope.com/en/products/...d-edit/rx.html

Reynaud 09-14-2018 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm duchenne (Post 2023697)
Exponential Audio : reverberations, up to 9.1
http://www.exponentialaudio.com/

Exponential Audio's Symphony3D and Stratus3D support up to NHK22.2 with the VST3 versions, along with Extended Atmos (7.1.6), Auro 9.1, Auro 11.1, Auro 13.1, et cetera.
https://www.exponentialaudio.com/stratus/
https://www.exponentialaudio.com/symphony/

Røde have also just updated their Soundfield plugin at their IBC2018 booth, now supporting:
B-Format™ (FuMa), B-Format™ (Ambix), Mono, Stereo, 5.1, 7.1, 5.1.2, 7.1.2, 5.1.4, 7.1.4
https://www.rode.com/soundfieldplugin

Wholegrain Digital DynPEQ (up to NHK22.2):
http://www.wholegrain-ds.com/products/quartet/

jm duchenne 09-15-2018 10:45 AM

Thanks for the links !

But it is strange that Exponential Audio says that "Reaper is not 3D compatible".
https://www.exponentialaudio.com/advanced-surround-faq

I wonder how they have succeded to program a plugin that cannot access Reaper's 64 channels busses ;-)

Reynaud 09-16-2018 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jm duchenne (Post 2034914)
But it is strange that Exponential Audio says that "Reaper is not 3D compatible".
https://www.exponentialaudio.com/advanced-surround-faq

There were a few issues (such as channel routing) but between Michael Carnes and the Reaper devs, solutions were found.

https://s22.postimg.cc/7ddidmojl/Stratus_Reaper.png

jm duchenne 09-16-2018 11:56 PM

Ah, good ;-)

ReaDave 09-22-2018 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reynaud (Post 2034391)
Røde have also just updated their Soundfield plugin at their IBC2018 booth, now supporting:
B-Format™ (FuMa), B-Format™ (Ambix), Mono, Stereo, 5.1, 7.1, 5.1.2, 7.1.2, 5.1.4, 7.1.4
https://www.rode.com/soundfieldplugin

I'm particularly interested in the new RODE NT-SF1 mic. Ultimately, I'd love a Soundfield ST450 Mk2 but it is way out of my price range. Given that Rode now own Soundfield, the NT-SF1 could be a decent budget version (minus the hardware B Format output, heater and ultra high end specs).

jm duchenne 10-09-2018 11:23 PM

Just to say that there is now a bunch of 64 bits Acousmodules also in Audio Unit for MacOS.
Up to 64 channels as usual and working well in Reaper ;-)

http://acousmodules.free.fr/x64.htm


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